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Exactly. They aren't very showy and don't feel they have much to prove. In personal relationships, once you get to know them and have an actual rapport, they are very warm people, and even get cute and cuddly. The women are Switzerland's greatest natural resources. But let's just keep that a secret.
So let me get this right:

1) They're kind to their friends? What a remarkable achievement!?!? In what country are people not nice to their friends? I don't think your stated reason is really an excuse because the real test of friendliness is whether you feel warmth towards fellow human beings and want to help/share simply for that reason alone. That is the magic of the places where people are considered friendly.

2) If women are the greatest natural resource, what does that say about men? I'm Ukrainian-American and one of the first things I got (before the conflict popped up) was always about how beautiful the women are and I did not take kindly to it. I don't want how you relate to my country to ignore 50% of the population and to do nothing more than objectify the other 50%.

I know this is a bit harsh, but I think the criteria you're using to judge Switzerland, or any country for that matter, has little to do with happiness or even the basis for civilized society. I think it might be time to re-evaluate things a bit.

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Old 29.04.2015, 12:39
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Re: Swiss are the happiest people in the world

@khabibul: Do you feel like the Swiss owe you something? Then right off the bat, I think you're on the wrong footing.

On the issue of happiness, I don't think yours or the Swiss are really of anybody else's business. Furthermore, some people don't even know what it is, or agree on it. For many, its a mood they can't seem to extract from the Swiss.

But a mood, you see, is really generated by hormones in the brain; seratonin, dopamine and endorphins. It's not something put in there for you by the Swiss. If one is not sure about their own mood, I suggest looking into it themselves. There are medications, supplements, exercises and lifestyle changes that can help with these. You don't need the Swiss to respond to you the way you want them to in order to address these.
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But a mood, you see, is really generated by hormones in the brain; seratonin, dopamine and endorphins. It's not something put in there for you by the Swiss. If one is not sure about their own mood, I suggest looking into it themselves. There are medications, supplements, exercises and lifestyle changes that can help with these. You don't need the Swiss to respond to you the way you want them to in order to address these.
The previous poster was merely commenting on the "friendliness" thing....
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Re: Swiss are the happiest people in the world

This is a very subjective topic, proven so by the numerous mixed responses.

I personally think, if you compare Switzerland to European countries it can be quite nice.

That said, being American, CH is about 20yrs behind on certain things...im happier in the US.
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@khabibul: Do you feel like the Swiss owe you something? Then right off the bat, I think you're on the wrong footing.

On the issue of happiness, I don't think yours or the Swiss are really of anybody else's business. Furthermore, some people don't even know what it is, or agree on it. For many, its a mood they can't seem to extract from the Swiss.

But a mood, you see, is really generated by hormones in the brain; seratonin, dopamine and endorphins. It's not something put in there for you by the Swiss. If one is not sure about their own mood, I suggest looking into it themselves. There are medications, supplements, exercises and lifestyle changes that can help with these. You don't need the Swiss to respond to you the way you want them to in order to address these.
Did you just tell me to get anti-depressants because I find the Swiss unfriendly? I know the United States is quick to prescribe Prozac but if this is all you need in Switzerland to get put on meds, I think more than 50% of the population would be anti-depressants tomorrow.
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Old 29.04.2015, 13:09
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Did you just tell me to get anti-depressants because I find the Swiss unfriendly? I know the United States is quick to prescribe Prozac but if this is all you need in Switzerland to get put on meds, I think more than 50% of the population would be anti-depressants tomorrow.
Well, not exactly, but whatever gets you through the night. The point is that you don't really have any control over other people, only over yourself. Its much easier to reassess yourself than to change 8 million people. Friendliness is a two way street in which what you give is what you get (sometimes).
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Well, not exactly, but whatever gets you through the night.
Loud music, hanging pictures and re-arranging my furniture. Apparently my neighbours all voted "unhappy". Miserable bastards.
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Re: Swiss are the happiest people in the world

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It is part of the upbringing as many feel the "Swiss Way" is the best way, and are commonly unable to think outside of the box of their tunnel vision. As long as they are following this lifestyle, of course they will be happy, because they're living their life how they've been brought up to be the right way, and naturally the best way.

Just my observations, feel free to disagree
I fully agree with the rest of your post, but I'm not sure if the above is true. At any rate it's good to see you don't use stereotypes

These days it's very common for young people to travel some country (often Australia or the USA) for multiple months, often on a low-ish budget. Obviously what they see isn't good enough to entice more than a relatively few (about 30k annually) to move abroad. So people do decide based on actual knowledge (at least with respect to the country they've visited), rather than prejudice.

What I find ironical though:
Replace "swiss" by "ami" in the quote and you get a perfect description of the US-american stereotype here
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I fully agree with the rest of your post, but I'm not sure if the above is true. At any rate it's good to see you don't use stereotypes
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What I find ironical though:
Replace "swiss" by "ami" in the quote and you get a perfect description of the US-american stereotype here
That is ironic, about the stereotypes, and then the stereotype about Americans. Because I don't even know of any Americans who can describe an American-way. I'll have to call that bogus.
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That is ironic, about the stereotypes, and then the stereotype about Americans. Because I don't even know of any Americans who can describe an American-way. I'll have to call that bogus.
Hmm..I just watched The Californians. And gotta disagree with what you wrote. There are as many stereotypes as there are regions. Some are common for bigger regions, too. Swiss love chocolate, n'est pas. Gawd, that show is awesome.

Anyways...People say they are happy. Whether being genuine is actually culturally important, is a whole different issue. And whether they think they should come across content and if they really are...another thing. Luis Vuiton, low risk and fresh air generally makes your average docile citizen content. It's not just here...the whole world is moving towards curiosity, creativity and diversity, though, long term, and not just the few first years of primary schools. I like that non comformist direction. It's a durable source of genuine happiness, even if from the outside it may look completely uniform.
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I fully agree with the rest of your post, but I'm not sure if the above is true. At any rate it's good to see you don't use stereotypes

These days it's very common for young people to travel some country (often Australia or the USA) for multiple months, often on a low-ish budget. Obviously what they see isn't good enough to entice more than a relatively few (about 30k annually) to move abroad. So people do decide based on actual knowledge (at least with respect to the country they've visited), rather than prejudice.

What I find ironical though:
Replace "swiss" by "ami" in the quote and you get a perfect description of the US-american stereotype here
Totally agree !! Especially when it comes to flag waving and guns...a very strange combination. At least Switz has decent gun control!
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Re: Swiss are the happiest people in the world

Please pray tell what that is, because I've been there, lived there, am from there, and have no idea what the "American Way" is. My best attempt is "Any and every which way towards life, liberty and happiness."
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Totally agree !! Especially when it comes to flag waving and guns...a very strange combination. At least Switz has decent gun control!
strange...i notice probably double the amount of Swiss flags in CH as I do American flags in the US. 'Schweizer qualitat' and all that BS nationalistic mentality exists more here than in the US, as most Americans seem more likely to be critical of their own government/country. The idea of 'we're the best country in the world' seems to be about equal between the two, however.

Stereotypes spread by the media/tv/hollywood are the worst...

Meeting one of my CH neighbors for the first time:

Me: Hi. I'm so-and-so
Him: Where are you from?
M: The US.
H: Oh, I don't really like Americans.
-awkward pause-
M: Um, do you know any?
-pause-
H: No.
-pause-
M: Have you ever been there?
H: No.
-awkward pause-
M: okay, then....nice to meet you?.

That was a few years ago, and now i'd put him in my 'Swiss sort-of friends' category...

strange lot, these chocolate-eating, cheese-loving, tunnel-digging banker/farmer yodelers...
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Please pray tell what that is, because I've been there, lived there, am from there, and have no idea what the "American Way" is. My best attempt is "Any and every which way towards life, liberty and happiness."
Well there's the Wild West mentality, and the spirit of rugged individualism.

Also the Protestant ethic is firmly deep rooted, along with the remnants of Puritanism.

Escapism has a good foothold ("Go West, young man, go West...")

just for starters.
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That is ironic, about the stereotypes, and then the stereotype about Americans. Because I don't even know of any Americans who can describe an American-way. I'll have to call that bogus.
Ask any swiss to describe how he imagines the typical us-american. As for irony, I didn't say I shared it.
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Oh, I see. It's a stereotype thread. Carry on then.
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Ask any swiss to describe how he imagines the typical us-american. As for irony, I didn't say I shared it.

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http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...hsten-25021073

This must mean that the only people complaining in this country are EF members
I was just about to write

"you wouldn't know it by all the complaining done on EF"

... and going thru this thread you can see a lot of complaining
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Re: Swiss are the happiest people in the world

There are not happy people theese days in the world and never happy people existed on earth.
Happy people will be only in the future, when they will live 3.000 or 10.000 or more years with no diseases, social problems, working 12 h/day only for money, etc.
They will travel a lot, they will have unlimited energy from sun, and they will care of each other.
You must search for happy people only in time and not geographically...

Our generation is another one, that serves in carrying the human technology to future peoples, wich will live like gods.

All theese statistics are b...it
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Re: Swiss are the happiest people in the world

Archer, you seem to be pretty young, and it looks like you haven't found the right goals for your life yet. I have about 3/4 of my statistical life expectancy behind me, and quite a bit of it was no fun. I eventually found myself in a deep hole because my wife had wasted almost all of my substantial income before she took the knowledge of the whereabouts of the rest into her grave.

I'm beyond retirement age now and still working because there is no other way for me to survive.

Does that mean I'm unhappy? Heck no! I have goals, and I keep achieving things way beyond anything money could ever buy. And I don't need be live 3,000 or 10,000 years to feel happy.

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