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Is it really that US citizens like ice in their drinks, rather than indoctrinated into the habit?
I often stick my water bottles in the freezer until they're half frozen, which I then consider cold enough to drink.

It's not indoctrination, but rather a combination of what you're used to and what you like. (I'm used to driving but I LOVE Swiss public transport and choose it over anything else. I'm used to ice and I love it.)
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Old 26.04.2015, 19:20
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perhaps people feel like being ripped off when half of the glass is filled with ice.


Since I come from Asia, I would definitely agree to this. Most of my family and friends back home will always think that a restaurant/bar is ripping us off if there's a lot of ice in our drinks. In Malaysia, we get charged a few cents more if you request for no ice in your drinks (since they need to fill it up)
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Old 27.04.2015, 09:38
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Is it really that US citizens like ice in their drinks, rather than indoctrinated into the habit?

I might be being presumptuous, but could it be more to do with profit margins on cold drinks and the proliferation of fast food joints and soft drinks manufacturers and other "institutions" selling beverages? Go to a bar/restaurant and ask for a soft drink and typically the first thing the bar man will do is shove the glass straight into the ice bunker and fill the glass with ice, then pour over the drink. If you pour the drink first, typically you'd fill nearly all the glass with drink and just a little ice, thereby eroding profits. After all a glass of ice/water will be a fraction of the price of a glass of Coke or Sprite etc (DISCLAIMER : Other beverages are available).

I don't think US consumers are "indoctrinated" any more than people coming out of any other culture that has different norms around food and drink. A lot of preference is what you grow up experiencing and that becomes the "right" way to do it. If you look at the economics of the fountain drink business, there are huge profit margins on all sizes of drinks. It may even be that the cost of the cup and the cost of the ice, counting energy costs to make it, may be just about as much as the cost of the syrup and water in the drink. Also, if saving on the drink is the big motivation for the restaurant owner, why do most allow vitually unlimited free refills? In most fast food (McD's type) restaurants, you can get your own drink with as much or as little ice as you like, and you can go refill as many times as you like until you leave the restaurant.

I think a better explanation is that many parts of the US have a very warm or hot climate, particularly across the South, where Coke started. Its introduction coincided with the widespread availability of refrigeration and therefore ice, and was well before widespread use of AC in homes and public areas. Coke was always marketed to be drunk "ice cold", and as its popularity spread, so did the practice of serving it with ice. It was the great new thing! Arguably, that produced a knock on effect as other drinks were introduced.
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Old 27.04.2015, 10:14
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Yes, very cold, iced drinks can be bad for your stomach. Thetmperature difference can kill the "good" bacteria that participate in the digestion process.....
This is, of course, a complete urban myth. If anything the evidence points in the opposite direction.
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Old 27.04.2015, 11:35
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Personally, I don't like ice in soft drinks because it kills the bubbles.
That's exactly why my step-daughter puts ice in her prosecco!

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Old 27.04.2015, 11:37
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Re: Got Ice?

There are health effects associated with cold drinks. Try downing a huge vat of Fondue, alongside ice cold drinks. You're going to have a bad time.

Personally, I'm an ice fan myself, I need my drinks cold! Sometimes just below zero is great.

As for drinks that cannot be watered down, a cold glass will do a decent job (no plastic fake ice cubes for me).
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...As for drinks that cannot be watered down, a cold glass will do a decent job (no plastic fake ice cubes for me).

Ditto. All my Martini glasses are stored in the freezer. The moment right after the cocktail is poured from the shaker into the glass and its a quasi-slush liquid on the surface and along the edges... Mmm Mmmm Good!
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There are health effects associated with cold drinks. Try downing a huge vat of Fondue, alongside ice cold drinks. You're going to have a bad time.
TBF you don't actually need the cold drinks to achieve that end.
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Ditto. All my Martini glasses are stored in the freezer. The moment right after the cocktail is poured from the shaker into the glass and its a quasi-slush liquid on the surface and along the edges... Mmm Mmmm Good!
You have a freezer just for glasses? My freezer is exactly the same size and shape as a 500g package of chicken.

And do you shake, not stir?
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Re: Got Ice?

I picked up the new ice machine this morning at the PO, and tested it over lunch.

So far, so good.

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