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Old 13.05.2015, 18:07
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I was approached about a job here which I interviewed for, not being very hopeful. Had to google-map Basel once the offer came through, and as it was a "local contract" I planned and expensed my own move, although that turned out to be pretty cheap as it's just me.

I've been here 5 years. Once this job eventually ends, I'll go back to London and look for the next opportunity. It's possible, but unlikely, to be back in Switzerland.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

The answer to the question: Yes I will (more the trade of life than style though) and in a few years too.
"Home is where the Heart is'. This is definitely not home.
Beautiful? yes, Orderly? yes but not Home.
England it is, in my beautiful, sincerely welcoming and picturesque part of Kent.
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However, my parents are in their mid eighties and it may sound terrible, but I do think that if we moved back "home", how long would my parents have left, and after they are gone we would be stuck living in England, resenting every minute of it.
This struck a chord.

We, too, had those thoughts - and along with responsibilties here, they kept us doing a balancing act on both sides of the pond.

However, looking back now that 3 out of 4 parents are gone... I wish to heaven that we had moved back home, for whatever time remained, at whatever the cost.

The majestic mountains, pretty vistas, trains running on time that Switzerland offers - these are utterly meaningless compared to the bonds of family.

Sure we were home often, every few weeks those last years, and when not home were in daily contact, managing the situation. But we missed providing the casual chats, the simple gestures, the million and one day-to-day things that are actually far, far more important. And that haunts me.

So if y'all will forgive a Yank for jumping into the discussion: If I could turn back time then yes, I'd trade in my Swiss life(style) and go back home. In a heartbeat.
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And you tend to erase from your memory all the bad sides of your home country.
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Old 13.05.2015, 20:08
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I hope I never have to return, the UK has gone to the dogs and will not return for a very, very long time.

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For some reason I have serious doubt about leaving Switzerland now as my husband has a good job, I have now joined several courses and hope to have again a good job in the future and our daughter loves to be outside and be one with nature and just loves it here. We have built up nice social lives, joined into the village community and all seems to fall in its place.
There is your answer, stay as long as you can.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

We came back to U.K after 2 years in Germany gasping for being with close friends and family again, being able to have a conversation without it feeling like a big effort, enjoying a nice pint in a cosy pub after a walk in the Peak District, the gardens, the National Trust visits, the creativity... and then the reality kicked in: a lot of people on edge, binge drinking and litter, swearing, not feeling very safe, long working hours, not much of an outdoor life for the kids and only a portion of the freedom they had enjoyed in Germany... and now we are here in Switzerland to stay. We DO miss many things from the U.K., but not enough to go back in the short term anyway. I think a lot depends on the age of your children, circumstances, stage of your lives... everyone will give you a different reply but nobody can tell on your behalf...follow your guts.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

...and I forgot a key factor: we were extremely shocked by the sexualisation of pre-teens in the U.K. after our stay in Germany. And the pressure to drink. Ours were very good at not giving in to peer pressure, but it was there nonetheless, all the time. Yours might be too young to worry about it, but it was a determining factor for us to leave Britain again.
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Old 14.05.2015, 14:51
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...and I forgot a key factor: we were extremely shocked by the sexualisation of pre-teens in the U.K. after our stay in Germany. And the pressure to drink. Ours were very good at not giving in to peer pressure, but it was there nonetheless, all the time. Yours might be too young to worry about it, but it was a determining factor for us to leave Britain again.
I think this also depends on the place you chose to live, choice of school, friends etc as well as the values you have at home and the example you set. I have friends in Germany who say exactly the same about Germany, complaining about the pressure on young children to smoke and drink etc.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I came here for a year shortly after I graduated, then went back to the UK for a longer spell, before I came back again. A few years in the UK makes you appreciate some things you initially thought were drawbacks with Switzerland.
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Old 14.05.2015, 17:16
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

Life doesn't have CTRL Z keys.
Going to live in a country one has lived in previously, is not really going 'back'. The place has probably changed. And so have we.

I love going to England again for a visit. Speaking idiomatic English. Seeing hedges. Visiting places I knew in my childhood and seeing friends with whom I've been in contact for sixty years.

Regrets on having lived most of my life here? Maybe minor ones. When my parents were old, I couldn't help them much. I was lucky in that my sister was near them and could. As all members of the family died suddenly, there would have been no chance of a 'special goodbye' anyway,

Carpe diem. Weigh up the pros and cons. And look forwards.

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Old 14.05.2015, 17:39
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To be really honest I am not familiar with the Watford area.
I come from Watford... it's typical, fairly affluent suburbia, not a lot to distinguish it from anywhere else a similar distance from London. Apart from the football, of course ;-) Go another five or six miles north and you start to get out of the suburbs and into more rural territory.

I definitely wouldn't exchange Luzern for Watford, but my circumstances are different: no young children so no schools to think about, and I have been out of the UK for so long that I don't know anyone there any more, and would probably feel more isolated there than I do here.
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I love going to England again for a visit. Speaking idiomatic English. Seeing hedges. Visiting places I knew in my childhood and seeing friends with whom I've been in contact for sixty years.
Absolutely. I feel that way too. When I plan to go to a trip back to England I try to go to some B&B in the country where I can take pleasant walks along meandering rivers and visit a cathedral or stately home or two, and take a beer in an ivy-clad tudor pub with quant door handles and a nice garden where you can listen to bell ringers and watch the Morris men. That is very much the England that I remember from my childhood, at least from the numerous trips my parents took me on, and it hasn't changed one bit. It is the first thing that comes to mind when I think "England". But its not the same England as the rat race country I lived in every day (I tried very hard to forget about that) and its definitely not the England where most people toil for 26 hours every day in a dark satanic mill for tuppence a week, and neither is it the England with the NHS and crime and council houses and Mr Farage's theories on immigrants and all that which the politicians in the recent election seem to have been talking about.

The longer you've been away from a place, the more you idealize it and the harder the shock when you go back.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

Do it!!! I did exactly this about three years ago after living in Affoltern am Albis / working in zurich. Moved back to London and the first thing I did.... Was breathe and think, 'Yes - civilisation again'

London / UK maybe be (by comparison) rough round the edges but it feels more real, more alive, more positive (Swiss just moan moan moan) more culturally aware / accepting / more opportunity... The list goes on...

If you miss the skiing, jump on a plane and go to France. Cheaper / better runs / less Swiss...

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Old 14.05.2015, 18:53
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Do it!!! I did exactly this about three years ago after living in Affoltern am Albis / working in zurich. Moved back to London and the first thing I did.... Was breathe and think, 'Yes - civilisation again'

London / UK maybe be (by comparison) rough round the edges but it feels more real, more alive, more positive (Swiss just moan moan moan) more culturally aware / accepting / more opportunity... The list goes on...

If you miss the skiing, jump on a plane and go to France. Cheaper / better runs / less Swiss...

Then why do live in Geneva? At least according to your profile?
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I'll be back there in the summer - first time since 2 yrs. ago, and only fourth time in 15 yrs.

I'll be staying in stockbroker-commuter belt Surrey, so will be interesting how reality compares with my idyllic memories of days gone by, this time round.

A holiday, but also because of my mid-80's year old mother, who is suffering with age related memory problems (still not officially diagnosed and labelled - although we now deal with the Alzheimer Society).
I don't think me permanently being there, would make a lot of difference - she doesn't recall when we last saw each other or even last spoke - so it could be a week, a month or a year, and it would be the same ...... and the same news and stories. Calling is now a problem - phone misplaced, not charged, etc.
Not being callous, just realistic.

Anyway, how much is it for a pint, now? (proper beer, that is - not cold, gassy keg crap).
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Anyway, how much is it for a pint, now? (proper beer, that is - not cold, gassy keg crap).
Don't expect much change from £4.00
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

To be honest the only way that I'll willingly (maybe not quite the right word) go back to the UK pemanently is in a body bag - and I'm already at work to ensure that doesn't happen either.
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It's amazing some of you closed-minded people managed to move to Switzerland in the first place.
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Don't expect much change from £4.00
Jeeeeez - I was trying to remember if it was already over 3 sovs last time I was there ..... obviously was - and more so.

Long gone are the days when I was paying 67p for a pint - in fact it was the same for a pint as it was for a gallon of petrol, to fill up the ol' 125.
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