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Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

After having had a rough start in Switzerland 2 years ago (think of a major but then I mean major culture shock) coming from London and moving to a small village nearby Luzern. Now I have always said when the right opportunity comes, we will move back to England and now that opportunity has come.

For some reason I have serious doubt about leaving Switzerland now as my husband has a good job, I have now joined several courses and hope to have again a good job in the future and our daughter loves to be outside and be one with nature and just loves it here. We have built up nice social lives, joined into the village community and all seems to fall in its place.

I would like to know who was in this same position? What have you chosen and what were your reasons for it?
Also, if you could choose, would you stay or would you go and why?
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After having had a rough start in Switzerland 2 years ago (think of a major but then I mean major culture shock) coming from London and moving to a small village nearby Luzern. Now I have always said when the right opportunity comes, we will move back to England and now that opportunity has come.

For some reason I have serious doubt about leaving Switzerland now as my husband has a good job, I have now joined several courses and hope to have again a good job in the future and our daughter loves to be outside and be one with nature and just loves it here. We have built up nice social lives, joined into the village community and all seems to fall in its place.

I would like to know who was in this same position? What have you chosen and what were your reasons for it?
Also, if you could choose, would you stay or would you go and why?
Depends what you're going back to. Rat-race, commuting and keeping up with the Jones's?

By the way, the response you get on here will be mainly from people who have not moved back.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

Why did you move from London to a small village?

You might have had a similar shock moving to a small village in England.

Personally, one of the things that I like about my present situation is that I do know and hang around with a lot of like minded people. They are mostly locals. Very few of them are actually expats.

I actually spent some years working in a small village in Aargau but I stayed living in Zürich city. In fact there were several reasons for that but one of them was that I thought I wouldn't be able to fit in in that village and wouldn't be happy there.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

Our original plan was to move to Luzern Stadt but as there was little time and not really any good flat opportunities in our budget, we moved to the next best thing. Not well planned so a wise lesson learned for the future. If we would have had more time, no doubt we would have been in Luzern but I am not sure if this would have been any less of a culture shock.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

We would go to Watford, so no commuting to Central London involved. To be really honest I am not familiar with the Watford area. I've spend my time in London mostly in the city, Ealing and for a short time Uxbridge..
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We would go to Watford, so no commuting to Central London involved. To be really honest I am not familiar with the Watford area. I've spend my time in London mostly in the city, Ealing and for a short time Uxbridge..
Also depends on what stage your daughter is at. Our youngest was 10 when we came here. The biggest advantage of living here is the freedom which the children have. In the UK we used to have to drive them everywhere, or they were reliant on catching the school bus. Here, they can go where they want when they want. It's safe and it's convenient, and it gives them a sense of maturity and independence which they never had as teenagers in the UK. This is a big difference, and it's not really obvious until you have experienced it.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

The biggest deciding factor for me relates to my children.
Having not lived in London for 15 yrs., it's probably difficult to make an accurate comparison, but I believe that their quality of life and general security is better here.

I'm not Swissified enough, to want to wrap them up in cotton wool and shield them from all the negative things that are out there, but there are certain aspects of living in or near a major city (or Britain in general), that if contact with these can be avoided until they're a bit older, all the better.



...... and you'd probably have a reverse culture shock, moving to Watford.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

We only moved here some 15 months ago from Surrey, but I would not want to go back to the UK now! My kids are happy, the OH is happy with his job, and so am I, despite being a housewife, and leaving behind a career that I love!

We had more money, travelled more, had more family contact when we lived in he UK, but despite a reduced buying power, we are happier here. The place is safe for the kids, there are oodles of gentle hiking close by, and I feel that we are able to give our kids the same childhood both OH and I had when we were growing up some 30 odd years ago. I don't think you can replicate that in the UK!

I would not move back to the UK, but to NL, the answer is "misschien" (perhaps)
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

Yes I would. Been in CH 16 years and really had enough now. We are in the UK at the moment doing research and making early arrangements to move back.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

No. Despite my inability to rolls my r's & my sense of humour, I am Swiss now. Been here longer than I lived in the UK. Going to England is a foreign country for me. Money has changed, new words, music & other stuff that I have never heard of as I don't even have English tv anymore.

Where is the waving the Swiss flag smiley?
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Old 13.05.2015, 11:28
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

We wouldn't move back either. I've lived outside the UK longer than I ever lived in it ( although not in Switzerland) and although it's nice to visit from time to time I don't see it as home anymore.
We have a nice lifestyle here and it's a fantastic country for kids to grow up in. Our son doesn't want to leave now even though he really didn't want to come here and had a pretty tough time when we arrived almost 5 years ago. There are lots of opportunities for him here in Switzerland.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I would move back, but it would have to be somewhere nice, near the coast. The problem with Switzerland is there is no sea, and quite frankly lakes are not the same.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

We love it here now and would be reluctant to move back to UK, def. not to London unless we had a HUGE salary.

However, if we were given the chance and it looked promising I would weigh up a lot of factors and my kids' education would be one of the dominant ones as would long term finances and jobs/careers.
How is your daughter doing at school and how will it work out longer term? What are the alternatives in Watford?

Actually, we used to live in Berkhamsted which is quite near Watford, a few stops away on the train. I loved it there, met great friends and loved the high street and community generally. Most people who live there do not want to leave. It's a great little market town though house prices are quite expensive (though not London prices). Could you check this out?
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I've been in Switzerland for 10 years and for the first 8 I would never have considered going back to England. Here we are 2 years later, I am more settled than before and have a good life, but I am somehow considering going back. The quality of life is better here and that is what will probably keep me here if I do stay, along with the fact that my daughter is 7 and I would imagine she would have a much better future here than in the UK, even though she would adapt easily and loves going there.

It's a tough one, just try to imagine the life you would live in Watford and see how it measures up to life here.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I would move back, to the coast or country, as long as I could find a way to have the same amount of money and free time! I'd miss skiing though, that would be the issue!
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We only moved here some 15 months ago from Surrey, but I would not want to go back to the UK now! My kids are happy, the OH is happy with his job, and so am I, despite being a housewife, and leaving behind a career that I love!

We had more money, travelled more, had more family contact when we lived in he UK, but despite a reduced buying power, we are happier here. The place is safe for the kids, there are oodles of gentle hiking close by, and I feel that we are able to give our kids the same childhood both OH and I had when we were growing up some 30 odd years ago. I don't think you can replicate that in the UK!

I would not move back to the UK, but to NL, the answer is "misschien" (perhaps)
Your situation sounds similar to mine .
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I've been in Switzerland for 10 years and for the first 8 I would never have considered going back to England. Here we are 2 years later, I am more settled than before and have a good life, but I am somehow considering going back. The quality of life is better here and that is what will probably keep me here if I do stay, along with the fact that my daughter is 7 and I would imagine she would have a much better future here than in the UK, even though she would adapt easily and loves going there.

It's a tough one, just try to imagine the life you would live in Watford and see how it measures up to life here.
Exactly, that's the thing isn't it, the freedom children experience here. That's a major factor. I doubt that they would experience the same level of freedom in the UK, even in the suburbs.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

Having been a visitor to Switzerland for nearly 10 years, I would move there tomorrow if the circumstances allowed.

From what I have seen and heard, the people who find living in Switzerland difficult are generally due to not being fully prepared or not having researched properly. This can easily happen if you move for a job with relatively short notice, especially if you haven't visited previously.

If you struggle with languages, as I do, that must make it even harder. Integrating as much as possible will make things easier.

The most difficult thing for me would be missing sitting on the beach with fish and chips followed by a pint or so of real ale. With the political climate in the UK I would certainly hesitate returning if I were there.

At the end of the day, it is a case of balancing up all the pros and cons. Everyone's situation will be a bit different.
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I love going to England but I can't see myself going back permanently . I nearly made the big move in 2000 but the more we looked at different apartments and the local infrastructure, the more I felt we'd be making a mistake. So I chickened out before the expense of moving our stuff over.

We came back early looked at an apartment the next day and bought it within 2 weeks! I'm here to stay!
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Re: Would you trade in your current Swiss life(style) and move back to England?

I have lived here now for 8 years and my husband for 15. I have elderly parents, sisters and their children back in the UK. They are the only thing which would make me move back.

However, my parents are in their mid eighties and it may sound terrible, but I do think that if we moved back "home", how long would my parents have left, and after they are gone we would be stuck living in England, resenting every minute of it.

There is a part of me though which thinks we may be better living in the UK as we get older (my husband is ten years older than me). We still own our house there, so we are lucky.

When I moved out here to join my husband in 2007, the aim was to stay until he retired. That was 18 months ago and we are still here after working out that we could just about afford to stay.

After sitting outside in the sun today with a cold beer (I was supposed to be going for a run, but hey, what can you do?) my feeling at the moment is I want to remain in Switzerland for as long as possible.
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