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Old 21.05.2015, 13:04
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I'm amazed about the paranoia in this thread. A knife? Illegal!? Why?
What do you want to do with your kids when they grow up? Buying pre-packaged industrial food in a carboard box, put it in a microwave and see them turn into diabetic overweight adults with hypertension. Or else learn how to prepare and cook real food?
Try and work this one through - which is more dangerous, a knife used responsibly or a teenager wandering through the streets of Lausanne immersed in a private universe with a smartphone and earplugs isolating him from the world (see the clip produced by the Lausanne police)?
Yeah, I'd rather my child be a pre-prepared meal eating smartphone user, than a machete wielding maniac, raging the streets with muderous intent, trying to find oganic quinoa, with nobody able to contact him because he refuses to carry a phone because it will forward his brain signals to the government.

We are in a "post the stupidest argument" contest, right?
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Re: School asking children to take knifs to school - is this legal

https://youtu.be/k8c2hjiTDPo

Perception of risk is often twisted and distorted- many kids have died recently in events pictured in the video in CH- none have been killed by making a whistle with their pen-knife, I believe.
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Hmm, nice straw man ya got there.



Back to the OP: how soon is this upcoming Project Week thingy? Reason I ask is that I would not send my child off for his first-ever outing with his first-ever pocketknife on a school trip. He needs some one-on-one coaching first, basic safety stuff - and if he hasn't had that already at home then no way am I turning him loose in some forest to hope he'll pick it up from his classmates.

I would seriously recommend you refrain from rushing out to buy a pocketknife unless you know you'll have time between now and then to teach him how to use one safely. And if you're not used to carrying/using knives yourself (which, no offense, it sounds as though you might not be) then please watch some basic knife safety videos online yourself first - not as a substitute for hands-on practice, but just so you don't pass on any dangerous habits when you are showing your kid what to do. Or perhaps better yet, get a more outdoors-y friend to show you both.
This!

On a school trip into the forest my daughter borrowed a friend's knife to whittle a stick for a sausage...and ended up plunging the knife straight into her finger. She had one of her own with which she was very familiar but forgot to take it with her. At the time I was with my husband waiting for him to go into surgery so imagine my joy at receiving that particular phone call. The whole class (and the teacher, too, I think) thought my daughter had chopped off her finger because there was so much blood.

Seven stitches, one traumatised nine-year old and one very distraught mother later I still think it's a great idea that knives such as these are treated as a normal part of childhood here but I strongly agree with Mathnut that learning how to use them properly is essential. Of course you can't account for every eventuality but you can have a good go at it!
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Old 21.05.2015, 13:24
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... I know anything over 6cm is illegal to carry in the UK...
You are allowed a knife with a folding blade that is not more than 3" (7.62cm) long. For all other knives, you must have a good reason.

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
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is this illegal?
No it isn't.

Sorry, I just wanted OP's question to be answered.
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Re: School asking children to take knifs to school - is this legal

You question actually made me think at how ridiculous the world has become, since at first I thought "yeah you cant do that someone will get killed"...

but thankfully here hasn't become america yet.

I could see an argument on someone hurting themselves though (maybe? maybe not?)
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but thankfully here hasn't become america yet.
Depends, NRA Swiss style:

Knives don't cut people, people cut people.


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Re: School asking children to take knifs to school - is this legal

I did similar when I was 9 years old - knife slipped. Didn't need stitches but it was bad enough. I learned to hold the knife correclty the next time.

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This!

On a school trip into the forest my daughter borrowed a friend's knife to whittle a stick for a sausage...and ended up plunging the knife straight into her finger. She had one of her own with which she was very familiar but forgot to take it with her. At the time I was with my husband waiting for him to go into surgery so imagine my joy at receiving that particular phone call. The whole class (and the teacher, too, I think) thought my daughter had chopped off her finger because there was so much blood.

Seven stitches, one traumatised nine-year old and one very distraught mother later I still think it's a great idea that knives such as these are treated as a normal part of childhood here but I strongly agree with Mathnut that learning how to use them properly is essential. Of course you can't account for every eventuality but you can have a good go at it!
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Re: School asking children to take knifs to school - is this legal

I've carried a pocketknife nearly every day for the last 50 years. It's a tool, not a weapon.
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I did similar when I was 9 years old - knife slipped. Didn't need stitches but it was bad enough. I learned to hold the knife correclty the next time.
My son did it age 23... he's learned now!
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Re: School asking children to take knifs to school - is this legal

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It says that children "may" carry a pocketknife on these trips, not that they must. So if you're not confident your kid can handle the responsibility, it's OK not to give her one yet. And 12cm is the maximum allowed length, shorter is OK too.

8-9 years old strikes me as about right for a first pocketknife though, to be honest. Old enough to have concrete tasks they want to do with a knife (especially in the forest: building play-houses out of sticks and string is a big one at that age, so is sharpening sticks to roast sausages on) and old enough to understand instructions like "never cut toward your hand".

If you do give your kid a knife, make sure it's a good sharp one. Dull knife = more pressure required = actually more likely to cut yourself when the blade slips. Then go out and practice a bit yourselves, emphasizing safe vs. unsafe ways to cut off a branch, cut a length of string, whittle a stick to a sharp point etc.

Fabulous response Mathnut !
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