Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 20.05.2015, 23:37
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: zh
Posts: 258
Groaned at 21 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 65 Times in 36 Posts
giff is considered knowledgeablegiff is considered knowledgeablegiff is considered knowledgeable
Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Hi all,

I am not sure this is the best section for my question, but after all I am asking about what would be custom in Switzerland...

I will throw a (big) party (a wedding) and I plan to ask my guests to donate to charity rather than give me presents.

Now, which is the best way to do this, in practice?

I thought about opening a bank account and ask people to wire money into it. Then do the donation and send the invoice/confirmation to my guests.

Can anyone see any problems with the above approach? One issue could be that in this way people will not be able to tax-deduct their donations, because I would be the one actually making the payment, right?
Maybe I could propose that they do the donation themselves to the charity organization I chose and send me the confirmation? This way I would still be able to sum up all donations...

Any thought on the subject which would help me maximize the amount people will be willing to donate are very appreciated.

Thanks,
G
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20.05.2015, 23:39
Troublawesome's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Zug
Posts: 721
Groaned at 124 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 583 Times in 271 Posts
Troublawesome is considered unworthyTroublawesome is considered unworthyTroublawesome is considered unworthyTroublawesome is considered unworthy
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Use one of the dozens existing websites that already do that.

Justgiving.com is one of them, Google can provide lots of results.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20.05.2015, 23:39
adrianlondon's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 8,788
Groaned at 189 Times in 172 Posts
Thanked 24,215 Times in 6,520 Posts
adrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond reputeadrianlondon has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

They give you cash (or bank transfer), you pay it to the charities and you get the tax benefits (and add that to the donation amount).
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank adrianlondon for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 20.05.2015, 23:42
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: zh
Posts: 258
Groaned at 21 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 65 Times in 36 Posts
giff is considered knowledgeablegiff is considered knowledgeablegiff is considered knowledgeable
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Quote:
View Post
They give you cash (or bank transfer), you pay it to the charities and you get the tax benefits (and add that to the donation amount).
I did not think about that, good point. But I would hopefully exceed the maximum deduction possible, so it would still be a bit better for people to donate themselves...
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank giff for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 20.05.2015, 23:48
Troublawesome's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Zug
Posts: 721
Groaned at 124 Times in 75 Posts
Thanked 583 Times in 271 Posts
Troublawesome is considered unworthyTroublawesome is considered unworthyTroublawesome is considered unworthyTroublawesome is considered unworthy
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

So you're literally giving away free money? Can I sign up as a recipient to your charity?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Troublawesome for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 20.05.2015, 23:51
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: zh
Posts: 258
Groaned at 21 Times in 14 Posts
Thanked 65 Times in 36 Posts
giff is considered knowledgeablegiff is considered knowledgeablegiff is considered knowledgeable
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Quote:
View Post
So you're literally giving away free money? Can I sign up as a recipient to your charity?
As a EF user I doubt you are in need
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 21.05.2015, 00:04
Phil_MCR's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Basel
Posts: 11,472
Groaned at 246 Times in 157 Posts
Thanked 13,323 Times in 5,675 Posts
Phil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond reputePhil_MCR has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Best way would be to say "no presents, but please feel free to make a donation to a charity of your choice." then let them deal with it.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Phil_MCR for this useful post:
  #8  
Old 21.05.2015, 00:08
Idgie's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 573
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 390 Times in 184 Posts
Idgie has a reputation beyond reputeIdgie has a reputation beyond reputeIdgie has a reputation beyond reputeIdgie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Friends of mine spoke to the charity of their choice up front and organized it. They asked people to make a donation mentioning the occasion on the payment slip. The charity, having been involved in the planning, was happy to provide the tax slips to the people paying, as well as an overview over the total payments to the married couple so that they could thank their guests.
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank Idgie for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 30.05.2015, 04:15
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 1,456
Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 2,218 Times in 818 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

Do you feel you need to know who did, and who did not, donate? And how much?
If you don't need this info, then just do the first part of what Idgie said... but then you wouldn't need the "overview of the total payments" at all.

In Switzerland, it would be considered tacky, probably even extremely rude, for you to want to know such terribly indiscrete matters as how much money any of your guests transferred anywhere. Here, money is a private issue. It would be thought, in Swiss cultural terms, that you have no business snooping around, going off to the office of the charity organisation, to get figures of sums paid in by your guests. No, no, not nice.

In fact, many people in Switzerland who make donations to charities, take care to do so anonymously. In some part because they genuinely do want to be quiet givers. And in another part because getting onto the database of any charity is an awful thing! Those databases are sold, and this can be perfectly legal as some charities are part of an umbrella charity certifying organisation, and the database is passed on "only" internally (to the dozen affiliated charities). Therefore, anyone who is once known as a donor is highly likely then to get a cascade of further charity requests, by post or telephone. If they succumb, and pay in to one more, then they climb in value in the database, and the cascade grows to a flood. I would never, ever want to invite my friends/guests to embark on that journey. I wouldn't wish that on anyone!

If I were you, I would ask for any guest who would like to give you a gift to please give an gift to the charity, and would specifically request that the gift be ANONYMOUS. You could select three charities you like, in different areas so your guests could choose the one that appealed to them most. Or say "One of X, Y, and Z charities, or any of your choice".

That way you will never know who did what, but you add that in to part of the magic of a large wedding party.

Last edited by doropfiz; 30.05.2015 at 04:28. Reason: added warning of avoiding entry in charity database
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank doropfiz for this useful post:
  #10  
Old 30.05.2015, 09:20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Grisons
Posts: 288
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 202 Times in 105 Posts
banadol has earned some respectbanadol has earned some respect
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

I've done that before for a big birthday and just let people know and mentioned my favourite charity but added "or of your choice" and some people let me know which charity they donated to (but never how much) but most people didn't. Fair enough.

I think one had the option of adding people for the email confirmation so it said something like, such and such donated in your name blah, blah. But as I said I don't think it mentioned the amount.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 30.05.2015, 09:56
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SZ
Posts: 7,615
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 15,916 Times in 5,232 Posts
meloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond reputemeloncollie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Collecting money for charity, experiences?

I was raised old school* and so follow the rule that gifts - giving or not giving - should not be mentioned on the invitation itself.

An invitation should never have a 'price' attached, which is what any mention of gifts - giving or not giving - implies. One issues an invitation for the pleasure of one's friend's company. No strings attached.

If one does not wish for gifts to be given, one simply has a friend (subtlely, casually) spread the word, separate from the invitation.

---

Quote:
View Post
Best way would be to say "no presents, but please feel free to make a donation to a charity of your choice." then let them deal with it.
But if one must follow current trends, I would counsel Phil's wording as the better route. Dictating a charity is to be avoided as some of your guests might not approve of the charity you have chosen. Leave that decision up to the guest.

And certainly do not ask the guests to inform you of the amount donated. Doropfiz' advice is spot-on here. A donation is a private affair between the giver and the organization. Look at it this way - you wouldn't specify a price for a gift given, would you? A donation is exactly the same thing.

---

But feel free to ignore my old-fashioned advice.


ETA:

I should more accurately say that I am old school with regards to my own culture's mores. Obviously the etiquette and practices around gift-giving vary according to cultures, and likely generations. So if the wedding is in Switzerland, it would be wise to seek the advice of Swiss folks - of your own age, and of your parents' generation.


Best wishes for your wedding, by the way.

Last edited by meloncollie; 30.05.2015 at 10:34.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank meloncollie for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Someone collecting toys for Christmas charity? Patagonia Free stuff 3 01.05.2015 22:29
Creative ideas to raise money for charity? jammidge Daily life 6 18.06.2014 10:53
Anyone collecting books for Charity Celtictwist Daily life 2 22.05.2013 08:28
Kids collecting for charity in Zurich Victoria2010 Daily life 5 06.09.2012 10:49
Scam warning: Collecting for charity on false pretenses Kosti Complaints corner 12 26.08.2010 12:30


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0