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. Otherwise, I'm starting to believe it was fabricated...
tempting hey- especially as it has become the only thread alive elsewhere (where this place is called 'the c*ap place)by some who insist on staying here... mind boggles.

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tempting hey- especially as it has become the only thread alive elsewhere (where this place is called 'the c*ap place)but some who insist on staying here... mind boggles.
I'm afraid to even ask for more details....
To each their own, really. There is no other way. Twisting words and implying things about one was already very clear in multiple posts is the way some people choose to interact on this forum (note I say "choose", perhaps this is who they are and just it), nothing new under the sun.
As for OP, I hope it's just lack of basic courtesy and she was not trolling. Although....whatever.
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As for OP, I hope it's just lack of basic courtesy and she was not trolling. Although....whatever.
I think that's a bit hard on the OP (who's a newcomer here) - in real life this is the equivalent of asking a question at your local bar, seeing it turn into a brawl, and then standing up and clarifying your point.

My response would be the same - "um, sorry I asked" and leave quietly.
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Old 02.06.2015, 19:46
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I think that's a bit hard on the OP (who's a newcomer here) - in real life this is the equivalent of asking a question at your local bar, seeing it turn into a brawl, and then standing up and clarifying your point.

My response would be the same - "um, sorry I asked" and leave quietly.
Then perhaps you shouldn't have asked at all, knowing full well it's just a bar after all.
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tempting hey- especially as it has become the only thread alive elsewhere (where this place is called 'the c*ap place)but some who insist on staying here... mind boggles.
So you think on ET we made a thread on EF with the purpose of making a thread on ET with a link to EF in it?

Sound logic
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Re: License plate stolen

Agreed, it is indeed bizarre. Why would be people who think this place is ****, and who say they do NOT read it- will post about it. Why would anyone who hates Switzerland and has move back home, and calls this place the '****' place, continue to post here and take such an interest in what goes on in Switzerland. Bizarre- or very funny, really. But it is a free world... so whatevah! But the mind does boggle.
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Agreed, it is indeed bizarre. Why would be people who think this place is ****, and who say they do NOT read it- will post about it. Why would anyone who hates Switzerland and has move back home, and calls this place the '****' place, continue to post here and take such an interest in what goes on in Switzerland. Bizarre- or very funny, really. But it is a free world... so whatevah! But the mind does boggle.
Who said that and does that?

Although you nipping over for a quick read and then posting about it here without contributing there is reallllly creepy and a lot more bizarre than the situation you've described in your post. free world doe...whatevah and struuuuuf..
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Agreed, it is indeed bizarre. Why would be people who think this place is ****, and who say they do NOT read it- will post about it. Why would anyone who hates Switzerland and has move back home, and calls this place the '****' place, continue to post here and take such an interest in what goes on in Switzerland. Bizarre- or very funny, really. But it is a free world... so whatevah! But the mind does boggle.
It's clear they actually do not read it...otherwise they would have adopted a different tone at least. (yet again I might be too optimistic and give them the credit they don't deserve)
Happy for them they have their exclusivist place...lol.
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Re: License plate stolen

Update: My friend's husband retrieved the missing rear plate for me from his neighbour. I didn't ask for the details of the negotiation, I really don't care any more.

I then went back to the police station to explain that the plate was found, and I have the feeling that the officer was very happy not to have to follow up on the incident.

...

Fast forward 13 hours, I come home from work in my freshly sparkling clean car, only to find my parking spot occupied (I was in hurry this morning, and I didn't lift the "blocking system").

After all this, I am really looking forward to my forthcoming car-free and parking-hassle-free holidays.

Final remark: My friend does *not* have a car. I guess this is the trigger for the whole story. Because she has no car, she never really paid great attention to the parking rules of her building: They *thought* it was a visitor's place, I trusted them (of course, I was invited and shown a place to park, why should I doubt it), nothing happened during the first play-dates, so I kept parking there, meanwhile the (admittedly somewhat crazy) neighbour was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on.

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Old 03.06.2015, 11:16
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...so I kept parking there, meanwhile the (admittedly somewhat crazy) neighbour was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on.
Hey thanks for getting back to us- and so glad to hear it sorted itself out without the police and without too much aggro.

But... if you knew the guy was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on... why did you keep parking there? Nothing, but nothing excuses his behaviour on that day- but parking there again and again, knowing the above, was asking for trouble, no- and parking elsewhere, knowing this, would have avoided all this mess.

Anyway- no harm done in the end- and in the way it's good you experienced it from the other point of view with your own space. It is darned annyoing isn't it
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Old 03.06.2015, 11:23
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nothing happened during the first play-dates, so I kept parking there, meanwhile the (admittedly somewhat crazy) neighbour was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on.
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But... if you knew the guy was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on... why did you keep parking there?
Because she did not know. One was fuming inside his little home. The other one was thinking everything is perfectly fine. Sometimes, a little passive aggressive note works wonder.
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But... if you knew the guy was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on... why did you keep parking there? Nothing, but nothing excuses his behaviour on that day- but parking there again and again, knowing the above, was asking for trouble, no- and parking elsewhere, knowing this, would have avoided all this mess
But she didn't know he was getting angry. Her friend 'thought' it was a visitor space and told her to park there and she did so for several weeks without incident. If nobody had told her that it was a private space at any time over all those weeks how was she to know that he was getting angry about it. She is assuming that's how he felt based in his subsequent actions.

I see two possible scenarios here.

1. The rightful owner of the space was out on all the other occasions so was not aware of it(unlikely). He then took the plate and vandalised the car when he saw it for what be thought was the first time.

2. He had seen the car same car parked there every time but had done nothing ( except quietly stew maybe) and finally snapped on this occasion. ( more likely)

Whichever scenario it was his behaviour was inexcusable. The OP made a genuine mistake which could easily have been remedied by a note on the windscreen ( a paper one tucked under the wiper) or a knock on her friend's door.

In her shoes I too would have gone to the police to report a missing numberplate and find out if it was ok to drive without it.
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Re: License plate stolen

Good news that you sorted it out with this poor man , all my wish now is not to find your car in my parking place , you will may think it is visitor place as well .or may be someone in the street will just tell you park in my place and you just drive in , but i think i am bit out of your wish list because my parking place it is not in the middle but the right one !

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Update: My friend's husband retrieved the missing rear plate for me from his neighbour. I didn't ask for the details of the negotiation, I really don't care any more.
I then went back to the police station to explain that the plate was found, and I have the feeling that the officer was very happy not to have to follow up on the incident.
That was anticlimactic. I was expecting SWAT teams breaking down the door and a full CSI investigation looking for fingerprints and traces of egg shells.
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Fast forward 13 hours, I come home from work in my freshly sparkling clean car, only to find my parking spot occupied...

And that is called Karma. You have paid your penance (and then some). Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.
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Because she did not know. One was fuming inside his little home. The other one was thinking everything is perfectly fine. Sometimes, a little passive aggressive note works wonder.
OK fair enough- it was not clear from the post- I read it possibly wrongly that OP was aware the guy was getting more and more angry about her parking there. Totally agree about the note- but as said- at our parking place in the UK (which we paid very good money for), I did leave polite notes several times on a few cars- only to find them torn up on the ground next to the car. Perhaps that happened to that guy before? As said, absolutely no excuse for his dreadful behaviour.

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But... if you knew the guy was getting more and more angry every Saturday and so on... why did you keep parking there?
Of course I was *not* aware he was getting more and more angry every Saturday! What I meant is: "In retrospect, I am *assuming* that he was getting more and more angry every Saturday". Until the event of last Saturday, I had no clue that I was parked at the wrong spot. I would have never parked on someone else's spot! I cannot emphasize this enough!

I am sorry to see that I have not been making myself clear all along .
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Re: License plate stolen

Thing is, this guy probably will do this again, and thinks he can get away with it. OP's friend going to her neighbour asking, could it be that you might have for some reason whatsoever a car plate that might belong to an inconsiderate visitor in the parking lot who alas happens to be a distant acquaintance of mine? Weird
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Re: License plate stolen

Well, hopefully the OP's friend who lives there will stop telling visitors that they can park in that spacenow they know!

However, I would check with the warden or landlord/agency, that that space is indeed rented by him. It could be he has just got used to using it- but does not have a rental contract linked to it - just to know for sure.
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At the end of the day, as a licensed driver, you're still responsible for knowing all the signs that concern your car and not trusting a friend who doesn't even own a car. Just a kind reminder.
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At the end of the day, as a licensed driver, you're still responsible for knowing all the signs that concern your car and not trusting a friend who doesn't even own a car. Just a kind reminder.
Sign codes, color codes, etc mandated for public space are, essentially, irrelevant on private property. Simply because many rules guiding public space mostly have no bearing on private space.

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Thing is, this guy probably will do this again, and thinks he can get away with it. OP's friend going to her neighbour asking, could it be that you might have for some reason whatsoever a car plate that might belong to an inconsiderate visitor in the parking lot who alas happens to be a distant acquaintance of mine? Weird
If that was his intention all along he wouldn't have waited until the 6th or 7th time for OP to park in his spot.

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