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Humidifiers for sale everywhere...why??

Ok,

As a newbie a lot of things puzzle me about Switzerland and one of those things is the amount of humidifiers for sale here, and everywhere else that second hand items are being sold. With the weather we've been having as of late, I would think a dehumidifier would be more apt.

So, I am curious to know...why would I need one living in Zürich??

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Ok,

As a newbie a lot of things puzzle me about Switzerland and one of those things is the amount of humidifiers for sale here, and everywhere else that second hand items are being sold. With the weather we've been having as of late, I would think a dehumidifier would be more apt.

So, I am curious to know...why would I need one living in Zürich??

Thanks!

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People use them in winter - when the air is very dry.

They don't use them in summer!
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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

2 things to note, the first is that people here can be very slow, hence they are selling the humidifiers they didn't sell in the winter. The second is that in very cold parts of Switzerland, the water in the air freezes into a cold fog and leaves the air very dry. Some people are very sensitive to dry air, become ill, and need to make the air in their home more humid.
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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

Modern buildings in Switzerland are extremely well insulated (theoretically). You use good windows with minimum of 2 glass sheets, quite often 3, good thermic insulation all around the building, and ventilation is either passive or forced (by having mechanical ventilation forced in the bathroom while turning on the light). Also, for the best heating (in terms of costs and efficiency), heating is advised to be on the whole winter at a low temperature (which also helps fighting things like condensation).

This leads to extremely dry apartment buildings - it's rather common to have air humidity under 30% in new apartment buildings. This can lead to some health troubles, including trouble breathing. That is why so many people buy humidifiers in Switzerland.

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This leads to extremely dry apartment buildings - it's rather common to have air humidity under 30% in new apartment buildings.
It's not just new buildings. It's similar in older buildings which don't have underfloor heating but traditional radiators run at relatively high temperatures which dries the air quickly.
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for the best heating (in terms of costs and efficiency), heating is advised to be on the whole winter at a low temperature
I hate this. I believe it's wrong, and I miss having my heating on a smart* controller, such as the one I have in the UK. I also don't like walking into a hot apartment when I've been out in the cold/snow; I feel much more comfortable turning the heating on once I get home and having the place warm up with me in it.

* You program the time and temperature, and the heating comes on whenever it thinks it should in order to get the room up to that temp at that time.

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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

Hi guys,

Thanks for clearing this up for me. I will keep an eye out for one then, at least before winter arrives.

After reading in the contract of our new place that you are FORBIDDEN to dry clothes indoors for fear of mold etc, I was actualy contemplating getting a dehumidifier for the winter months, but now I understand I shouldn't bother with that .

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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

I guess it depends where in Switzerland.

Basel air (although not this past Winter as it didn't get that cold) can get extremely dry and I used to have a small humidifier in the bedroom as it stopped my skin drying out. However, I changed and instead dried clothes in my bedroom in winter instead. Lovely smell of the conditioner too However, it's only needed for two or three weeks a year. It also depends on the size and build of your flat.
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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

I dry my clothing on purpose in my apartment. Even now humidity seldom gets higher than 34%......... It is lovely to have a well insulated apartment (low heating costs) but it comes with a very dry environment.
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I hate this. I believe it's wrong, and I miss having my heating on a smart* controller, such as the one I have in the UK. I also don't like walking into a hot apartment when I've been out in the cold/snow; I feel much more comfortable turning the heating on once I get home and having the place warm up with me in it.

* You program the time and temperature, and the heating comes on whenever it thinks it should in order to get the room up to that temp at that time.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/uti...y-saving-myths
Actually even in modern systems, it's not on all the time - it's thermostatically controlled. It goes on and off.

And, if you have underfloor heating, you can't do what you suggest as it takes many hours for the place to come up to temperature.
You'd probably be off out again before you noticed a temperature rise.
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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

Never lived in a place with under-floor heating; always been hot-water radiators.

Yeah, the heating isn't on all the time (it will cycle around a degree or two), but the temperature is kept up all the time.
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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

You can set the underfloor heating to be cooler at night, and even a couple of degrees does make a noticeable difference, but you have to allow for a few hours time delay.

I think the whole concrete floor block doesn't cool down much, that would take too long, but the surface layer does. It's definitely more effective with tiles - wood parkett doesn't change anything like as much.

Trouble with radiators is that although it's nice to be able to adjust them, it never seems to stay correct; the underfloor is a hassle free compromise, and being significantly more efficient doesn't hurt.
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I dry my clothing on purpose in my apartment. Even now humidity seldom gets higher than 34%......... It is lovely to have a well insulated apartment (low heating costs) but it comes with a very dry environment.
Room plants? Beautiful to look at, air humidification comes free.
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Re: Humidifiers for sale verywhere...why??

Yep, but with my travel schedule they will not survive long.......

Apart from the fact that plants hate me (or rather my missing green thumb)
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Re: Humidifiers for sale everywhere...why??

they also help to nourish your mould cultures in bathrooms and around windows. But if you want to save on a humidifier, you can step up your showering efforts

Just to make the point, that proper ventilation in a flat is just as important (especially during winter/heating times) and can help to bring humidity to healthier levels.
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Re: Humidifiers for sale everywhere...why??

Haha :-( I think most people are by now aware of that.
Try a Minergie house/flat and you know what I am referring to.
And if you have mould from plants you definitely do not have sufficient air circulation
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