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Old 10.06.2015, 09:11
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oil changes in zurich

Hey all,

I've been having a tough time figuring out where to get an oil change in Zurich. Surely there is a location where you don't have to make an appointment for this.

Does anyone have insight?

Thanks so much!
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Old 10.06.2015, 09:18
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Re: oil changes in zurich

Are you sure you actually need one? Unlike North American cars (or at least North American drivers expectations of them), the only time you touch the oil in European cars is normally when it is serviced. Typically every Km 20,000.
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Old 10.06.2015, 09:24
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Re: oil changes in zurich

Ya I've heard that, and you're right, I do think I need a change because I'm Canadian and accustomed to changing it every 5000km. I think we've done about 10,000 but I've checked and the oil is really dirty.

What's the difference between the cars that makes it so European ones need a change so infrequently?
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Re: oil changes in zurich

http://www.rautigarage.ch/team.php

These guys do a great job and are fairly priced.
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Ya I've heard that, and you're right, I do think I need a change because I'm Canadian and accustomed to changing it every 5000km. I think we've done about 10,000 but I've checked and the oil is really dirty.

What's the difference between the cars that makes it so European ones need a change so infrequently?
What does your service manual say about at oil change? If it is a VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda chances are 20k km will be fine.

European cars generally run on very high quality (expensive) fully synthetic oil. Just because an oil looks dirty doesn't means it actually is nor needs changing.

I've had high performance cars that have not needed oil changes for 25,000km

Doing an oil change on a car every 5,000km must be being Canadaed or USAed
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Re: oil changes in zurich

Oil changes in European countries are typically done between 15,000 and 30,000 km. The main reason is the higher quality of oils in Europe. In the USA and possibly also Canada, most oil changes are still done with conventional oils (mineral). Mineral oils are less stable against oxidation and breakdown, have a lower viscosity index. Most oils sold in Europe are either fully synthetic or at worst semi synthetic. I don't even think you can find mineral based oils in any Swiss auto centers.

It's the viscosity of the oil that is important, not its "dirtiness", otherwise in Diesel cars you would have had to change oil every 500 km or so.
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Re: oil changes in zurich

It is also the gasoline and diesel which have different byproducts.

BMW LL-04 oil specification is for low sulfur fuels (Europe max 10 mg/kg or 10 ppm) where as LL-01 oil is for high sulfur fuels (Non Europe).
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Re: oil changes in zurich

Thanks so much for your help guys - much appreciated and great advice!
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Ya I've heard that, and you're right, I do think I need a change because I'm Canadian and accustomed to changing it every 5000km. I think we've done about 10,000 but I've checked and the oil is really dirty.

What's the difference between the cars that makes it so European ones need a change so infrequently?
I have owned several American cars here and the service manual quotes much longer oil change intervals than for the same car in the USA. I believe it is called marketing

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Oil changes in European countries are typically done between 15,000 and 30,000 km. The main reason is the higher quality of oils in Europe. In the USA and possibly also Canada, most oil changes are still done with conventional oils (mineral). Mineral oils are less stable against oxidation and breakdown, have a lower viscosity index. Most oils sold in Europe are either fully synthetic or at worst semi synthetic. I don't even think you can find mineral based oils in any Swiss auto centers.

It's the viscosity of the oil that is important, not its "dirtiness", otherwise in Diesel cars you would have had to change oil every 500 km or so.
Synthetic oils have been widely available in the USA since the 1970's
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