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New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

Dear all,

After more than 3 years living and working in Zurich, I will soon start a new job in canton Solothurn

The question now is...where to live? I have been thinking and searching all along the forum and the internet and cannot really decide. So far I am considering the following:

- Living in Solothurn (10 mins by car to work) in a studio or small flat by myself
- Living in Bern in a studio or small flat by myself (some 35 min. to work by car according to google)
- Living in Bern in a shared flat

On one side I value being close to work, but on other I see Bern is a bigger city with more things to do (I am still 28). Another thing I consider is that I travel often (at least once a month) to Spain through Zurich/Basel Fri to Sun/Mon and therefore Bern is further away...

So... what do you think?

I might look for something provisional for the first months, maybe it helps me postpone the decision.

BTW, I have seen that either in BE or SO, the taxes are much higher than in Zurich.

Thanks very much in advance!
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

I assume you excluded Biel because it's on the wrong side, if not the case you might find WGs there too.
Not knowing your person and previous experiences it's hard to suggest one or the other, some people like me hate waking up earlier just to lose time commuting, I would flip out after a few months. Lived alone or WG till now? wanna change? only you can know this stuff, also if you say what you expect from the place you live in maybe someone can tell you (nightlife, hobbies and stuff).
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

I don't like to commute over long distances(more then 1.5 hours one way)anymore(i did this for 24 years) ,i would choose paying more taxes then loosing so much precious time, especially when you are single.
Basel is quite nice, shopping over the border is very smooth, airport is nice and small, the main station is quite full in the rush hour.
There is not much difference commuting between Basel/Bern/Zürich to Solothurn, so if you want save taxes, stay in zurich.
The GA is not quite cheap (at least 3655 sfr per year), so you have to calculate this factor as well . Renting in Solothurn is not cheap either.
Here is a hitlist of Taxes to be paid:
http://blog.derbund.ch/datenblog/ind...steuerparadies
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

I also wanted to suggest Biel. We just moved here and are very happy. But then again I am not 28
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

Was in same situation, decided to live in Bern and commute to Solothurn. What I learned: Bern is rather slow-paced and hard to get to know people and Solothurn is a surprisingly cultural and active town for its size. If you speak any German at all you may find it quite a pleasant place. If I had to do it over, I'd lean towards Solothurn due to saving so much time commuting (suggest you add at least 10-15 minutes to what google gives as transit time) and lower living costs. If go with Bern, suggest living either downtown or in Elfenau/Muri expat areas, nice apartments with OK transit. You could commute Basel or Zürich but the long train ride get old right quick (don't even think about driving often unless you have your own driver Good luck!
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

I'm Swiss (Eastern Parts) and studied in Berne. I was excited to move to the capital. But it was the most tight knit village I ever lived in and I felt like a foreigner. Bernese cling to groups founded in Kindergarten for about their whole life and do not even realize it. My Italian, High German and French improved alot there because all of the foreign students couldn't find Bernese friends so we happily spent time together, swimming in the Aare and generally having fun in the beautiful and pittoresque city and spending hot summer days at the Schwarzwasser and Sense.

Our Bernese mates all had their circles and dind't welcome others in. They didn't even realize how uttterly self-sufficient they were. It's not really meant to be mean or unfriendly, it is just the way it is maybe being scared of non-Bernese since Napoleon robbed them of their gold and status.
After Berne I moved to Manhattan to study and even with not-so-good-English and a rough start, I found very good friends there. Roommates I'm still in contact with who helped me and whom I taught to cook from scratch!

I moved to Berne again a year ago to join my fiancé because he found work there and he even grew up in Berne. It was the same story all again, with my job-search, with making friends and so on. And I can even speak the local slow-paced dialect! I could't stand it again - he neither- and we moved back to Zurich where building friendships had been a just lot easier.

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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

Check out flats etc. in Langenthal. Cheaper than most other towns for rents, and it's quite central. It's on a main line, just a little ways off the motorway system and not quite 30 mins from Solothurn. We're happy hear for the last decade an'a'alf.


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BTW, I have seen that either in BE or SO, the taxes are much higher than in Zurich.
Some parts of canton Solothurn have low taxes, lower than Zurich.....

http://www.estv2.admin.ch/steuerfuss/my_select_alle.php all villages in Canton Solothurn



KantonJahrGemeindeKantonGemeinde

ZH2014Zürich100.00119.0000

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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

Thanks for all your comments!

To be honest I do not really mind nightlife but rather seeing people in the street, going out at a cinema, restaurant, etc, so some "life". But of course I would not commute too long (I will have a car but I would not like to drive more than 35 minutes each way)

I was surprised to see that Solothurn has 11 (!) museums and they even have a boat school through the Aare (I would like to know how far you can get )

I will also check Biel and Langenthal

To clear my doubts I think I will simply stay in a weekend in Solothurn and another weekend in Bern so that I can see the differences and decide better.

BTW Sbrinz. The tax thing applies also to residents with B permit (like my case)? I just checked in lohncomputer.ch and there I can only sort through the cantons, and I see that I would get something like 500 CHF less per month in Solothurnu/Bern when compared to Zurich.
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

Oh yes, if you are on a B permit then you pay the fixed average tax rate.
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

I vote for Solothurn. It's a lovely small town, with a cute old city. I don't really think Berne has that much more going for it culturally, there are lots of small events happening in Solothurn. I used to live in Berne a long time ago, and now live near Langenthal, and commute to Solothurn to study twice a week. The train connection to Solothurn from Langenthal is a bit of a pain, it's a milk run, although you do have an option of travelling by bus or detour through Olten, which is sometimes faster. By car it is ok, but if you happen to return at rush hour, there is ALWAYS a jam on the A1, I usually avoid the A1 and return via country roads. So, if you decide to commute I would do it from Berne or Biel, not Langenthal.
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

The traffic Between Bern and Solothurn can be really bad sometimes. I'd only consider living in Bern if you can reach your workplace by train, or don't mind stau's too much.

Also, what about Olten? It's near SO and is 30min by train to either ZH or BE.
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

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Dear all,

After more than 3 years living and working in Zurich, I will soon start a new job in canton Solothurn

The question now is...where to live? I have been thinking and searching all along the forum and the internet and cannot really decide. So far I am considering the following:

- Living in Solothurn (10 mins by car to work) in a studio or small flat by myself
- Living in Bern in a studio or small flat by myself (some 35 min. to work by car according to google)
- Living in Bern in a shared flat

On one side I value being close to work, but on other I see Bern is a bigger city with more things to do (I am still 28). Another thing I consider is that I travel often (at least once a month) to Spain through Zurich/Basel Fri to Sun/Mon and therefore Bern is further away...

So... what do you think?

I might look for something provisional for the first months, maybe it helps me postpone the decision.

BTW, I have seen that either in BE or SO, the taxes are much higher than in Zurich.

Thanks very much in advance!

You will be much happier in Bern as far as social life goes. Solothurn is
a beautiful small town, but it is dead.


You could live in Olten and commute 30 mins to work. With Olten, there
are great Connections to Basel, Zürich, Bern, and Luzern.
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You could live in Olten and commute 30 mins to work. . . .
Olten is well known amongst commuters for its railway station but, other than that, it has hardly a reputation as a vibrant, thriving metropolis.
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Olten is well known amongst commuters for its railway station but, other than that, it has hardly a reputation as a vibrant, thriving metropolis.


Olten is not a thriving Metropolis. That is true, but a Person is within 30 minutes of 4 thriving cities. The Location is the benefit, not the city itself.
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Olten is not a thriving Metropolis. That is true, but a Person is within 30 minutes of 4 thriving cities. The Location is the benefit, not the city itself.
but you always have to take the train then to do anything, you risk ending up doing nothing, also hard to create local connections imho
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

As a five year resident of Solothurn, I recommend it highly. I work in Bern and commute by car daily. You're looking at forty to fifty minutes for office hours travel and thirty minutes outside of rush hour. I've lived in Langenthal for two years, and didn't care for it.
This weekend is the Solothurn festival, last month was bike days, preceded by literature days, and I believe the film nights are next month. The fall festival is also quite cool. Solothurn's got a vibrant, active social scene but does die out around midnight. There are a couple of bars/discos that stay open until 3 am, and I find locals are much more open and friendly compared to nights out in Bern. There's also a good swimming pool with volleyball etc. right on the river for lazy afternoons like today. As we're right on the Jura, the Weissenstein is minutes away for a good hike.

Otherwise, I'd say you've got the right idea. Spend some time here and see if it fits your needs!
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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

In th two or three posts, Langenthal is coming out as not the best place to live. I live here, AND I AGREE. My comment on a previous post about living in Langenthal was purely the with the idea, because of the costs of renting apartments, far cheaper than many other places.


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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

Dear all,

Thanks for all your nice advices!

As the balance is not so clear for me (which is good) I will try to rent a provisional flat or serviced apartment for 2 or 3 months, and just see afterwards!

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Re: New job in Solothurn...living in Bern?

HollidayG is absolutely right.

Olten - Solothurn 20 minutes
Olten - Zürich/Bern/Luzern/Basel 30 minutes +-3

Solothurn is beautiful but almost no nightlife and if you wanna take the train to Bern from Solothurn you will have to take the most bitch connection in almost all of Switzerland, and I mean it!

Then again, nightlife in Olten is like a zombie. It comes back to life once a year and then dies again within 24hours. But since you can be almost everywhere within half an hour it's no biggie.
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