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Air conditioning police

I am told that there is a rule as to how much air con a company can use and they are very scared to break this rule, is there a certain point where the AC police say screw it and let them crank it up?

Just curious as this week is pretty hot!
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Old 28.06.2015, 21:29
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Old 28.06.2015, 21:29
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Re: Air conditioning police

So far as I understand the ac rules only apply to fixed installations. If the installation is approved then there are usually no limits on the usage.
Temporary installations are not controlled if they are not "built in"...
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lol aircon? At work?

I wish.
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So far as I understand the ac rules only apply to fixed installations. If the installation is approved then there are usually no limits on the usage.
Temporary installations are not controlled if they are not "built in"...



Is it a Canton Vaud thing then? I was told in 4 different places including Starbucks that they were not allowed to run the AC to make it more than 5 degrees less than outside. I was even told at the hotel they were not allowed to even install AC.

So where do they get this odd notion from?
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Re: Air conditioning police

what they mean between the lines is they cannot be bothered to jack it up mainly because nobody really knows how to change the HVAC temperature and it takes a while to balance out to the new temperature.
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Is it a Canton Vaud thing then? I was told in 4 different places including Starbucks that they were not allowed to run the AC to make it more than 5 degrees less than outside. I was even told at the hotel they were not allowed to even install AC.

So where do they get this odd notion from?
they wanted you to stop asking.
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they wanted you to stop asking.


LMAO funny!!

I just asked in passing, like hey you seem to have AC units on the wall, any reason they are not like ummm on? And they explained this whole story.

Then I asked the hotel and got the same story and I heard others asking as well. It was pretty hot, this week will be bad too. I know that I was just at a hotel that allowed you to freeze the room, and it was hard to leave! I love to do that and many now stop it
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Is it a Canton Vaud thing then? I was told in 4 different places including Starbucks that they were not allowed to run the AC to make it more than 5 degrees less than outside. I was even told at the hotel they were not allowed to even install AC.

So where do they get this odd notion from?
Many Swiss ac Systems are not capable to reduce temp by more than 5 degrees that is a technical issue, not a legal issue!
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Many Swiss ac Systems are not capable to reduce temp by more than 5 degrees that is a technical issue, not a legal issue!

They are made like that then due to a law? I mean other countries can make ones that can reduce temps more, so it *can* be done
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They are made like that then due to a law? I mean other countries can make ones that can reduce temps more, so it *can* be done
They're different kinds of systems, and more environmentally friendly.
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Re: Air conditioning police

Must check- but believe outside gas heaters for café terrasses are forbidden too.
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Must check- but believe outside gas heaters for café terrasses are forbidden too.
He he, I used to attend a church which used those inside the building (it was a converted mechanics' workshop).

I always used to leave with a headache... I wonder why!
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Re: Air conditioning police

Right, checked Vaud regs- and yes- you have to apply to install air con (always makes me laugh this, as a French speaker - air con = tw*t look)
and you have to

a) demonstrate the need, and that every other measure to limit heat absorption has been carried out -insulation, special glass, special blinds, etc

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b) that the 'clim' system uses the legal % of renewable energy required.

Same for Hôtels.
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Re: Air conditioning police

The problem is that most offices built over the last 20 years or so have no refrigeration unit built into the system, as that would definitely have fallen outside the prescribed energy usage levels. Yes, they sometimes have "air conditioning" but it's only cooled by heatsinks, pulling air up from cellar levels and the like.

Recent innovations[1] in this area have improved things enormously, but it means that some of our offices can reach nearly 40C in the high summer. One that I was in for a couple of years was regularly over 30 first thing in the morning and would then rise during the day. Not helped by the idiots that insist on opening the blinds and windows when it's >30C outside.

[1] I believe it is now possible, especially near a river with the ability to use water to cool, to keep buildings cool enough in even the warmest conditions. That's what's being promised, at any rate.
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He he, I used to attend a church which used those inside the building (it was a converted mechanics' workshop).

I always used to leave with a headache... I wonder why!
I have the same problem with religion
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Re: Air conditioning police

We were also suffering in the office w/o AC, and the facilities told us that there are regulations in Zurich regarding how much energy you can use for cooling. As far as I understand, regular AC consume too much electricity to qualify. So, in the end they had to install some kind of water cooling system. Cold water goes through small copper pipes and cools air. It's better now, but it still can get uncomfortable during hot summers.
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I am told that there is a rule as to how much air con a company can use and they are very scared to break this rule, is there a certain point where the AC police say screw it and let them crank it up?

Just curious as this week is pretty hot!
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lol aircon? At work?

I wish.
I thought working with the cool kids would keep you nicely chilled.
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I always used to leave with a headache... I wonder why!
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