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Help please a new born bird fallen out of nest what should i do to help

Please help me, a new born baby bird as fallen out of it`s nest, what can i do to help it before a cat gets it, or it dies. Please give me advice i want to help the poor little baby, it is crying, and my heart is breaking.
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Re: Help please a new born bird fallen out of nest what should i do to help

AFAIK there is nothing you can do. If you pick it up then you will get your scent on it then the mother will abandon it. I think ColonelBoris is our bird expert maybe he can give some advice.
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Re: Help please a new born bird fallen out of nest what should i do to help

My heart would be breaking too, I'd be a wreck.

Here is a site that has some info: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/guideto.htm

I would keep a watchful eye out for cats, if you can, hopefully the parents will come back and rescue him.
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AFAIK there is nothing you can do. If you pick it up then you will get your scent on it then the mother will abandon it. I think ColonelBoris is our bird expert maybe he can give some advice.
Thanks i keep having to shout at the children not to touch it because of the scent. I will send ColonelBoris a pm thanks again Lou.
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Thanks i keep having to shout at the children not to touch it because of the scent. I will send ColonelBoris a pm thanks again Lou.
flush it down the loo ... tell the kids that Tweetie has gone to Europa Park

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My heart would be breaking too, I'd be a wreck.

Here is a site that has some info: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/guideto.htm

I would keep a watchful eye out for cats, if you can, hopefully the parents will come back and rescue him.
I had a look at the site, and it say`s i should put it in a makeshift nest, and place it near the real nest, but i cannot, because the nest is in 1 of the rafters in the block of flats so it is impossible too place the make shift nest next to the nest.
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Re: Help please a new born bird fallen out of nest what should i do to help

This may be an oppertunity to teach your kids about the circle of life. Baby birds falling out of trees is never nice but often there is no good solution. Sometimes the parents abandon them, a cat gets them, the die of starvation or dehydration. . . .

Sorry about your situation
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Re: Help please a new born bird fallen out of nest what should i do to help

From the RSPB website:

It is common in spring and summer to find a young bird sitting on the ground or hopping about without any parents visible.
This is perfectly normal. The parents are probably away collecting food, or they may be watching nearby.
The young of most familiar garden birds fledge once they are fully feathered, but before they are able to fly, and spend a day or two on the ground before their feather development is complete.
Tawny owl chicks are mobile at a very early age, and can be seen climbing in and around their nest tree before they are even half grown. If you find a fledgling or a young owl, the best thing is to leave it where it is.
===What if the bird is in danger?===If the bird is on a busy path or other dangerous or exposed location, it makes sense to pick it up and move it a short distance to a safer place. The bird must remain within hearing reach of where it was found so its parents can find it.
Handling a young bird does not cause its parents to abandon it. UK birds have a poor sense of smell and do not respond to human smell in the same way as mammals.
Fledglings should be left where they are, in the care of their own parents. Removal of a fledgling from the wild will cut its chances of long-term survival to a small fraction, and should only be done as a last resort.
===Can I put it back in its nest?===If the young bird is unfeathered or covered in fluffy down (a nestling) and has obviously fallen out of the nest by accident, it may be possible to put it back. If this cannot be done, the chick is dependent on humans for survival, and it should be passed on to an expert rehabilitator.
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From the RSPB website:

It is common in spring and summer to find a young bird sitting on the ground or hopping about without any parents visible.
This is perfectly normal. The parents are probably away collecting food, or they may be watching nearby.
The young of most familiar garden birds fledge once they are fully feathered, but before they are able to fly, and spend a day or two on the ground before their feather development is complete.
Tawny owl chicks are mobile at a very early age, and can be seen climbing in and around their nest tree before they are even half grown. If you find a fledgling or a young owl, the best thing is to leave it where it is.

===What if the bird is in danger?===If the bird is on a busy path or other dangerous or exposed location, it makes sense to pick it up and move it a short distance to a safer place. The bird must remain within hearing reach of where it was found so its parents can find it.
Handling a young bird does not cause its parents to abandon it. UK birds have a poor sense of smell and do not respond to human smell in the same way as mammals.
Fledglings should be left where they are, in the care of their own parents. Removal of a fledgling from the wild will cut its chances of long-term survival to a small fraction, and should only be done as a last resort.

===Can I put it back in its nest?===If the young bird is unfeathered or covered in fluffy down (a nestling) and has obviously fallen out of the nest by accident, it may be possible to put it back. If this cannot be done, the chick is dependent on humans for survival, and it should be passed on to an expert rehabilitator.
It as no feathers it looks to me that it is a newborn, and i cannot put it back in it`s nest because it looks like the nest is in the rafters
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AFAIK there is nothing you can do. If you pick it up then you will get your scent on it then the mother will abandon it. I think ColonelBoris is our bird expert maybe he can give some advice.
Ah, urban legend, I'm afraid. Unless it's a Vulture, then birds can't actually smell all that well, so picking them up and putting them back often works ok.
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Re: Help please a new born bird fallen out of nest what should i do to help

Realised that when I checked the RSPB website, thought I should ask the experts since I was not sure.

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Ah, urban legend, I'm afraid. Unless it's a Vulture, then birds can't actually smell all that well, so picking them up and putting them back often works ok.
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Realised that when I checked the RSPB website, thought I should ask the experts since I was not sure.
Quite alright - I replied before I saw the other post...

Any idea what sort of birds are nesting up there? Even a really basic description might help if you have to feed it yourself. If it's a Blackbird, start digging up worms; Blue tits, start finding caterpillers; Black Redstart, go and buy mealworms from a fishing shop; Startlings, maggots from a fishing shop; and so on.
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Ok, got the pm back - I'll put the answer here as someone else might find it helpful. Maybe try to put the chick in a box (open topped) on something soft and put the box somewhere in the garden that's high (top of a shed or outhouse, etc). Failing that, if you have a decent windowsill that might work - use the bathroom windowsill if you have frosted glass as this will make the parents less nervous every time you use the loo... If the parents think it's safe, then they'll come down and feed it.
Also get a good look at the parents and tell me what they're like in case you have to feed it.
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Quite alright - I replied before I saw the other post...

Any idea what sort of birds are nesting up there? Even a really basic description might help if you have to feed it yourself. If it's a Blackbird, start digging up worms; Blue tits, start finding caterpillers; Black Redstart, go and buy mealworms from a fishing shop; Startlings, maggots from a fishing shop; and so on.
thanks for the pm pm-ed you back i have no idea what kind of bird it is how can i tell what is what. Has anyone any photos i can have a look at please post them rep points will be flying out to people if i can save this baby.
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Ok, bird ID 101:

First, overall colour: brown, black, black and white, etc. Then size, either in terms of actul size or compared to something else. Then, any noticeable patterns on it, white underside, brown spots, red tail, white face, that sort of thing. Next, beak and legs colours. Then if it's making a call, what does it sound like? Football rattle, sqwark, etc.
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http://www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk/sbirds.html
and worth a look here, too as many in the UK are also here:
http://www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk/bbirds.html
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flush it down the loo ... tell the kids that Tweetie has gone to Europa Park

I do believe animal cruelty is against the law in Switzerland!
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I do believe animal cruelty is against the law in Switzerland!
ok, please insert *surreptitiously wring its neck* & then flush .... feel better now ?
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Ok, got the pm back - I'll put the answer here as someone else might find it helpful. Maybe try to put the chick in a box (open topped) on something soft and put the box somewhere in the garden that's high (top of a shed or outhouse, etc). Failing that, if you have a decent windowsill that might work - use the bathroom windowsill if you have frosted glass as this will make the parents less nervous every time you use the loo... If the parents think it's safe, then they'll come down and feed it.
Also get a good look at the parents and tell me what they're like in case you have to feed it.
Ok i have made the box, how should i pick it up please i do not want to hurt it.
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Just pick it up as you would anything else. It's survived a long drop, so it'll survive you picking it up...
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