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Re: Working in Switzerland: An American perspective

Some things are better in the US and some things are better here. During our last trip to visit the in-laws (and we helped them with the shopping) I saw no products that really stood out. people rave about the beef in the US but it all seemed so unappetizing. Someone up above said it more diplomatically, but if the portions in the US were halved, they wouldn't have the world-wide reputation for enormous buttocks.
I found the restaurant food there to be no better, with the exception of diner breakfasts (I love diner breakfasts). And the stores! I cannot for the life of me understand why I should be able to measure 15 paces worth of shelf space just for toothpaste. Total overkill.
Summary, some good things in both places. Personal preference wins out!
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Old 22.07.2015, 09:27
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Yeah... but it comes with administrative fines that are steeper than the criminal ones in neighboring countries. The only reason it is not a crime in Switzerland is simple: At the moment it is a crime does the police need to assist foreign countries police to find tax dodgers in Switzerland - something the country prevented for a century based on "Sorry, it's not illegal here, we can't help you".
In many jurisdictions evading 500k of tax will put you in prison, plus fines of several times the tax evaded. Very different to just a fine IMO.
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Old 22.07.2015, 09:28
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Re: Working in Switzerland: An American perspective

I think the spirit of the article was spot on, especially about work culture, although it was framed a bit more positively than our reality, but hey....exaggeration to make a point.
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Old 22.07.2015, 09:34
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Re: Working in Switzerland: An American perspective

And the article still perpetuates the American confusion between Switzerland and Sweden.

Has anyone seen the video at the bottom of the article?
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Old 22.07.2015, 10:14
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And the article still perpetuates the American confusion between Switzerland and Sweden.

Has anyone seen the video at the bottom of the article?
The video is titled "11 reasons we should all move to Sweden"
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Old 22.07.2015, 10:17
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....exaggeration to make a point.
Freelance writer.

Must.

Sell.

Story.

For.

Food.


on another point - What's her EF moniker?
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I think the spirit of the article was spot on, especially about work culture, although it was framed a bit more positively than our reality, but hey....exaggeration to make a point.

My boss, during the last years of my working life, a nice fellow from Ohio and the European Manufacturing Director of the US company we worked for, once told me just how difficult it was to go home in the evenings from his office in Dayton. Nobody wanted to be the first to put his coat on. Sad really.
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Old 22.07.2015, 10:33
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Nope. Compared to Switzerland.

Almost everything I've eaten in the United States has been fresher, tastier and much better quality than anything you can get in Switzerland.

The only significant exception so far being coffee.

Not that I'd want to live in the US, mind, but the food really is way better.
I think that rather depends where you are in both the U.S. and Switzerland or anywhere else for that matter.

If you're in a largely agricultural area with really fresh produce easily accessible then it will taste better than in a big city or largely industrial region.
The tomatoes you can buy in the supermarket don't taste anywhere near as good as the ones you get from the local farmer or market garden.
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Old 22.07.2015, 10:49
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My boss, during the last years of my working life, a nice fellow from Ohio and the European Manufacturing Director of the US company we worked for, once told me just how difficult it was to go home in the evenings from his office in Dayton. Nobody wanted to be the first to put his coat on. Sad really.
but i know soooo many people here in ch who say the same. or that they can't take lunch breaks because it looks bad or there isn't any time etc etc. or how many people here have burn out...
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Old 22.07.2015, 10:55
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I think that rather depends where you are in both the U.S. and Switzerland or anywhere else for that matter.

If you're in a largely agricultural area with really fresh produce easily accessible then it will taste better than in a big city or largely industrial region.
The tomatoes you can buy in the supermarket don't taste anywhere near as good as the ones you get from the local farmer or market garden.
actually, in nyc the tomatoes were amazing- being in an urban area doesn't make a difference because they aren't grown there- but driven in from farms one or two hours away- so no big deal.
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So do i, but it's a real bitch getting the mobility scooter up the sodding mountain paths, how do you do it?
Umm, there are lots of options for the handicapped here.. I have even seen them ski down : REALLY !! Can't stand uninformed sniping...
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but i know soooo many people here in ch who say the same. or that they can't take lunch breaks because it looks bad or there isn't any time etc etc. or how many people here have burn out...
They are burning themselves out ! Some people get addicted to a certain type of overdriven work ethic. I grew up in the US, worked there and then moved to Europe and have worked here. What this lady writes in her blog is spot on !
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Just read Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture ... a perspective different from that of the many complainers here

The most un-EF quote:
Oh shit, now we have to expect even more amis here.

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The video is titled "11 reasons we should all move to Sweden"
Ok, the Swedes will have to handle the majority of them. Puh, that was close!
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Old 22.07.2015, 15:04
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They are burning themselves out ! Some people get addicted to a certain type of overdriven work ethic. I grew up in the US, worked there and then moved to Europe and have worked here. What this lady writes in her blog is spot on !
so did i! i call bullsh*t! but i was never someone who would choose to join that kind of rat race not here nor there. but "they are burning themselves out"? kind of like "they" do in the u.s ? no they are pressured to work with no breaks to satisfy the demands of their bosses
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Re: Working in Switzerland: An American perspective

Zurich is not the whole of Switzerland. I guess this lady drank bottles of Swiss kool-aid. Things operate quite a bit differently here in Ticino. I am sure it might be different in the French parts of CH as well.
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Zurich is not the whole of Switzerland. I guess this lady drank bottles of Swiss kool-aid. Things operate quite a bit differently here in Ticino. I am sure it might be different in the French parts of CH as well.
yes! and i wonder how loooooong her stay in switzerland (as a freelance writer???? freelancing sucks everywhere- it's never a good situation anywhere) was ...staying 6months to 2 years is certainly quite different from a longer or permanent stay and what you experience.
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yes! and i wonder how loooooong her stay in switzerland (as a freelance writer???? freelancing sucks everywhere- it's never a good situation anywhere) was ...staying 6months to 2 years is certainly quite different from a longer or permanent stay and what you experience.
Longer than you probably. More than 8 years.

RTFA: she was employed, not a freelancer!!
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Old 22.07.2015, 15:22
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Longer than you probably. More than 8 years.

RTFA: she was employed, not a freelancer!!
oh! you seem to know "her" very well. and you seem very sensitive to comments that deal with experiences different than "hers"... interesting!

thankfully, not everyone has the same black and white view of the two. and i still think that if she had such a tough life in the u.s, perhaps she choose the wrong sort of life style to live. either way. i'm happy here, i was happy there.

i'm lucky not to be one of those people who b*tch and groan everyone who disagrees with an ridiculously one sided article, nor someone who complains a certain time of life style without making significant changes in my life to live differently- seems easy to blame her unhappiness and pace of work/life balance on the u.s or likewise say that switzerland is so much better. good for her but not certainly for everyone her or there!
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Things operate quite a bit differently here in Ticino.
And thankfully so!

Zurich is a rat-race.

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If you're in a largely agricultural area with really fresh produce easily accessible then it will taste better than in a big city or largely industrial region.
Indeed, which is one of the great things about Ticino!

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