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Indeed, which is the only great thing about Ticino!

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Fixed that for you.
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Old 22.07.2015, 15:32
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Indeed, which is one of the great things about Ticino!

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... and also the rest of Africa.
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... and also the rest of Africa.
bushmeat anyone?

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Old 22.07.2015, 15:36
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The way they treat those frontaliers is shocking, isn't it?
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Old 22.07.2015, 15:40
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... and also the rest of Africa.
South of the Alps: the cradle of civilization, democracy, and great food.

North of the Alps: the cradle of barbarians, and crap cuisine!

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Old 22.07.2015, 15:42
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Fixed that for you.
The only bad thing about Ticino is that it's crawling with German speaking tourists on the weekends and most of the summer.

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Old 22.07.2015, 16:26
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South of the Alps: the cradle of civilization, democracy, and great food.

North of the Alps: the cradle of barbarians, and crap cuisine!

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Oh ffs. Sweeping bs generalisations. We live in Kt Zurich. Plenty of agricultural stuff, locally grown food, and decent cuisine. it doesn't have to be a rat race, either.

ETA: I generally like Switzerland, though today it is simply an Alpine Hell Hole. I am so freakin tired of the heat. And cranky. Yes, I need to look for an A/C unit. Ok, one thing the US is better at.
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Old 22.07.2015, 16:43
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... Yes, I need to look for an A/C unit. Ok, one thing the US is better at.
Some might say we overdo it in the States: Europe to America: Your love of air-conditioning is stupid:

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Overall, it's safe to say that Europe thinks America's love of air-conditioning is actually quite daft. Europeans have wondered about this particular U.S. addiction for a while now: Back in 1992, Cambridge University Prof. Gwyn Prins called America's love of air-conditioning the country's "most pervasive and least-noticed epidemic," according to the Economist. And according to the Environmental Protection Agency, it's getting worse: American demand for air-conditioning has only increased over the past decades.
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Some might say we overdo it in the States: Europe to America: Your love of air-conditioning is stupid:
But it's ok for Europeans to keep their houses and workplaces as hot as furnaces from October to April every year?
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Old 22.07.2015, 17:14
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But it's ok for Europeans to keep their houses and workplaces as hot as furnaces from October to April every year?
My house isn't hot as a furnace, except in the summer.
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Re: Working in Switzerland: An American perspective

The problem with AC in most countries is that they turn the damn thing to freezing. So, you go from excruciatingly hot to excruciatingly cold. I don't get the point of cooling an office to such a low temperature that most of the peeps must wear a cardi to be able to work! To me, that is stupid.

Btw, it is not just an American thing, you see it in the Middle East, in the Far East, in the tropics, as well.
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Old 22.07.2015, 17:55
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you go from excruciatingly hot to excruciatingly cold.
so on average youre juuuust right
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The problem with AC in most countries is that they turn the damn thing to freezing. So, you go from excruciatingly hot to excruciatingly cold. I don't get the point of cooling an office to such a low temperature that most of the peeps must wear a cardi to be able to work! To me, that is stupid.

Btw, it is not just an American thing, you see it in the Middle East, in the Far East, in the tropics, as well.
So everywhere but Europe....Hmmmm???
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Old 22.07.2015, 17:58
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Oh ffs. Sweeping bs generalisations. We live in Kt Zurich. Plenty of agricultural stuff, locally grown food, and decent cuisine. it doesn't have to be a rat race, either.

ETA: I generally like Switzerland, though today it is simply an Alpine Hell Hole. I am so freakin tired of the heat. And cranky. Yes, I need to look for an A/C unit. Ok, one thing the US is better at.
Older stone buildings are much cooler than modern constructions. Zug library is not especially warm during the day time whereas my office is like a sauna.
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So everywhere but Europe....Hmmmm???
AC is common in Spain, not sure about Italy or other southern european countries.
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The problem with AC in most countries is that they turn the damn thing to freezing. So, you go from excruciatingly hot to excruciatingly cold. I don't get the point of cooling an office to such a low temperature that most of the peeps must wear a cardi to be able to work! To me, that is stupid.

Btw, it is not just an American thing, you see it in the Middle East, in the Far East, in the tropics, as well.
That's exactly how I feel about it. Why can't they just cool things down to a comfortable temperature rather than turning them into fridges?

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Old 22.07.2015, 18:10
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So everywhere but Europe....Hmmmm???
I only mentioned those areas where I have generally experienced this .
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Re: Working in Switzerland: An American perspective

I read the article and I can honestly say that I tick all those boxes right here in the USA - 25 days of annual vacation, no guilt about taking it either, my colleague leaves everyday at 5 to pick up her child from daycare, then works later from home, excellent benefits, excellent pay...I could continue. Yes, I take the midnight conference call with India, but I also have a lunch picnic on my couch on a random Wednesday like today, while I check EF, because I can. I have incredible periods of stress due to the responsibility of managing people - but that's the life I chose, it's not for all, or for all at all times in their lives. Maybe tomorrow I'll get tired of it and seek a more predictable/less stressful job.

I realize two things: my employer is great and not everyone is the same in the USA, and, talking to my friends, it's actually the exception. I know I am lucky, I realize that. Also, however, I take issue with the "US work culture is crap" vs. "Swiss work culture is da bomb" as a sweeping generalization. It really depends.

I'll take the unpredictable but flexible hours rather than a mandatory "career break" in my profession because my child's school schedule is as random as it can be. That's me today. Tomorrow who knows.

P.S. The food here is fantastic, although there is no comparison with California produce. I do think dairy products were superior in Switzerland compared to the US, but not at all compared to Italy.
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Old 22.07.2015, 22:15
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The only bad thing about Ticino is that it's crawling with German speaking tourists on the weekends and most of the summer.

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German tourists or Swiss Germans....
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But it's ok for Europeans to keep their houses and workplaces as hot as furnaces from October to April every year?
Well, I love a good debate as much as anyone else, but sometimes the facts leave little to discuss: the average American produces more than three times the carbon emissions of the average Swiss. That's not just the aircon, but also the combination of it with far inferior insulation in their house, having a single standing house (made of plywood) instead of an apartment, driving more, driving cars that consume more petrol, producing more food,... the list goes on forever. Long story short: the European life style is in no way sustainable. The American one is the least sustainable the world has ever seen and most likely ever will see...

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