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Old 16.08.2015, 17:21
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

I just make it clear that I'm going to sit down there regardless, perhaps with an "ist frei?" or similar, especially if I need to squeeze past, but gestures and general body language can say more than words in these situations, so I just make sure they realise there isn't any choice involved on their part.
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Old 16.08.2015, 17:59
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

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I wouldn't say 'Please take your bag away' in English so I wouldn't phrase it like that in German either.
'Could you perhaps move your bag so that I can sit down' is more my line. (In dialect of course, but I'm not trying that out on here.)
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I just make it clear that I'm going to sit down there regardless, perhaps with an "ist frei?" or similar, especially if I need to squeeze past, but gestures and general body language can say more than words in these situations, so I just make sure they realise there isn't any choice involved on their part.
An outcome of The Generation Game or a gender thing?
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Old 16.08.2015, 18:26
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

I just start sitting. But then I'm rude.
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Old 16.08.2015, 19:06
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

On the bag that's on the seat? That's rude indeed
Plus, you need to hope there are no contents of the sticky kind.
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Old 16.08.2015, 19:39
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Wouldn't work around these parts.
It works in Basel.
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Old 16.08.2015, 19:47
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On the bag that's on the seat? That's rude indeed
Plus, you need to hope there are no contents of the sticky kind.
To be honest, the bag has never been on the seat by the time I touch-down. Apparently most passengers are not as blind as they pretend.
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

I ask politely and if they move the bag grudgingly, I sit down, lean over and scrunch up my face and sit back up while saying, 'Ahhhh. So ist besser.'
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Old 21.08.2015, 09:12
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

many women occupy two seats. One for their bags and the other for them.
I always grab at their bags ( no not their snatch ) when I want to sit there. They go into a panic thinking I am a thief.
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After a partly shitty day, I hopped on the bus in the evening with my bags which comfortably fit on my knees. I then looked for a seat and the closest one was an aisle seat next to window seat occupied by a purse and a crutch leaning against it from the seat across. On that seat a man was sitting and next to him a lady.

So I sat down on the empty aisle seat and put my bags on my knees. The man then rushed trying to move the crutch and the bag next to me. I repeatedly said, "No problem, don't worry" with a huge smile. It's a bus ride and I'm not two people but one so why should I take up a second seat.
The guy still tried to remove his things and the lady chimed in, smiling and saying that I should have a place to deposit my bags too. I smiled back and said that my bags weigh about a pound and that it [their being on my knees] is absolutely no problem, to just let things be.
(Note that I would've acted exactly the same if the man had been able-bodied with no sign of ill health/accident etc.)

The man looked relieved and I sat back and enjoyed the ride with both of my seat-opposites smiling at me.
I exited the bus with a friendly "goodbye" which they returned in unison.

Some stops before my exit, I noticed a man in the back of the bus with obvious gait problems. He staggered his way past an unoccupied aisle seat and reached the seat in the row in front of that aisle seat, where the person at the window seat kindly removed her bag from the aisle seat to let him sit down.

I went on my way wondering, why do some people think that common courtesy only applies when there is a visible physical impairment (which includes crutches or a wheelchair)?
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Old 21.08.2015, 09:15
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

I sat next to a girl today who had headphones on and didn't look up when I asked "Isch frei?"... so I sat down anyway. She had her leg hanging over towards my side of the seat and even though I sat down she literally did not move her leg, so for the entire trip her leg was basically resting on mine in a way that if she wasn't so cute I'd have been very uncomfortable with. I did get a big smile as she left so who knows, maybe she did it on purpose.
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

Shit. Some guys have all the luck
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I sat next to a girl today who had headphones on and didn't look up when I asked "Isch frei?"... so I sat down anyway. She had her leg hanging over towards my side of the seat and even though I sat down she literally did not move her leg, so for the entire trip her leg was basically resting on mine in a way that if she wasn't so cute I'd have been very uncomfortable with. I did get a big smile as she left so who knows, maybe she did it on purpose.
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Old 21.08.2015, 09:48
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I sat next to a girl today who had headphones on and didn't look up when I asked "Isch frei?"... so I sat down anyway. She had her leg hanging over towards my side of the seat and even though I sat down she literally did not move her leg, so for the entire trip her leg was basically resting on mine in a way that if she wasn't so cute I'd have been very uncomfortable with. I did get a big smile as she left so who knows, maybe she did it on purpose.
…did you get her number?
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Old 21.08.2015, 10:01
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

No, but she sure found out Richdog's number.....
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Old 21.08.2015, 10:09
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

When the train/tram is vaguely busy I get great pleasure in seeking out the most "precious" double seat user and sitting next to them.

The pleasure doubles when they want to get off at the same stop as me - and they rise early and get impatient when I don't move - and even the "I'm getting off too" message seems to go in one ear and out the other.
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Old 21.08.2015, 12:19
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

I was once sitting peacefully on a window seat, alone in a four-seat compartment, with my satchel bag resting on the seat next to me, when suddenly from behind there comes this huuuge woman, and without saying a word sits down on the seat next to me. Sitting down on my bag, half-strangling me in the process! I was too shocked to do anything, so just pulled the bag out from under her, stood up and walked away, but my camera unfortunately didn't survive the shock

Just to say, a bit of kindness and politeness makes everybody's life easier.
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Old 21.08.2015, 12:27
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Talk to a girl? On a bus? Pretty sure that is illegal in CH.
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

I lived in Belgrade, Serbia for a couple of years where I heard a funny story concerning public transport courtesy, an urban myth so to say.

A young African guy (in his 30s), supposedly from Kenya, was taking one of the busiest tram lines during rush hour. The tram was almost completely packed with almost no room to move. Then at a certain stop a pregnant woman got on the tram. Seeing this the African guy jumped off his seat and offered it to her. While he was getting up and gesturing the pregnant lady to sit down, an old(ish) woman sneaked in behind his back and took the seat (she got on tram at the same stop as the pregnant lady).

Seeing this, the African guy told the old lady politely (in broken Serbian) "I'm sorry madam but I have vacated my seat so this pregnant lady could sit down, she looks very tired." The old lady looked at him and said "I don't know which tribe you are from young man, but older people get to sit first around here", to which the guy replied "I don't know what village YOU are from madam, but in my village, grumpy old women like you are cooked and eaten for dinner".
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I lived in Belgrade, Serbia for a couple of years where I heard a funny story concerning public transport courtesy, an urban myth so to say.

A young African guy (in his 30s), supposedly from Kenya, was taking one of the busiest tram lines during rush hour. The tram was almost completely packed with almost no room to move. Then at a certain stop a pregnant woman got on the tram. Seeing this the African guy jumped off his seat and offered it to her. While he was getting up and gesturing the pregnant lady to sit down, an old(ish) woman sneaked in behind his back and took the seat (she got on tram at the same stop as the pregnant lady).

Seeing this, the African guy told the old lady politely (in broken Serbian) "I'm sorry madam but I have vacated my seat so this pregnant lady could sit down, she looks very tired." The old lady looked at him and said "I don't know which tribe you are from young man, but older people get to sit first around here", to which the guy replied "I don't know what village YOU are from madam, but in my village, grumpy old women like you are cooked and eaten for dinner".
See that right there? THAT was funny.
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Old 25.08.2015, 11:05
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I sat next to a girl today who had headphones on and didn't look up when I asked "Isch frei?"... so I sat down anyway. She had her leg hanging over towards my side of the seat and even though I sat down she literally did not move her leg, so for the entire trip her leg was basically resting on mine in a way that if she wasn't so cute I'd have been very uncomfortable with. I did get a big smile as she left so who knows, maybe she did it on purpose.

A women manspreading , Equality has reached Switzerland!
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Old 25.08.2015, 11:14
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A women manspreading , Equality has reached Switzerland!
Or maybe just pre-op?
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Re: Common courtesy on public transport

Seen this a couple of times on the train-passengers who sit with their feet resting on the opposite seat- eeeww! With socks on and sometimes even barefoot!
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