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Yes, I'd say so. Far more women than gay men out there.
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Old 17.10.2015, 11:18
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Validated statistics, or my thesis stands.

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Old 11.11.2015, 13:07
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Abstract: There is only one kind of men: Men.
Isn't gender supposed to be fluid and non-binary nowadays and everyone is whatever they identify as? If so, I want to identify as a Beluga whale.
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I want to identify as a Beluga whale.
Well, they are quite tasty, especially raw and marinated in Aquavit and olive oil!

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Isn't gender supposed to be fluid and non-binary nowadays and everyone is whatever they identify as? If so, I want to identify as a Beluga whale.
I don't know about gender, but apparently as far as sexuality is concerned, women are particularly "fluid"!
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The words wanting your cake and eat it immediately come to mind.

The problem is that a lot of gentlemanly behaviour harks from chivalry which was an inherently chauvinistic philosophy, that saw women as slightly above children in the hierarchy, to be cared for and protected, but also as inferior and not worthy of the same rights as men.

Nowadays things have changed and, as a result, women want to be self supporting and independent, but conversely men are more likely to expect women to be self supporting and independent.
I agree with your first points.

But the question is, is it the same women who want to be ultra indepenent whilst also expecting exceptional chivalry from men? I have the impression its often one or the other.
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I don't know about gender, but apparently as far as sexuality is concerned, women are particularly "fluid"!
At least judging from most of the women I've ever been with, they tended to mostly enjoy looking at naked women more than at naked men. One even pretended to be ill in order to not have to attend her sister's hen night which featured a male stripper. She even got angry why they couldn't have booked a girl. But I think when it came to any actual real girlie contact it was a big no go.
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But the question is, is it the same women who want to be ultra indepenent whilst also expecting exceptional chivalry from men? I have the impression its often one or the other.
Yes and no. Some do, but that does not mean all want to have their cake and eat it. I think the same can be said of some men; they move in with their girlfriends, expect rent to be fifty-fifty, yet still leave most of the housework to her (although there may be other reasons for this, most notably a gap in their relative definition of 'tidy' or 'clean').

Why you get this is probably down to second wave feminism. When it appeared in the sixties and seventies, the emphasis moved from equality to choice and so with this as your new priority, it becomes easier to rationalize such an apparent conflict.
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It'd be much smoother were everyone to have a keener sense of occasion. Knowing when to shut up helps.
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I think the same can be said of some men; they move in with their girlfriends, expect rent to be fifty-fifty, yet still leave most of the housework to her (although there may be other reasons for this, most notably a gap in their relative definition of 'tidy' or 'clean').
Most men who move in with their girlfriends end up doing far more housework than they did when they lived by themselves. It's indeed mostly because men are different. My girlfriend will tell me the flat needs vacuuming, and ask me to do it, and I will oblige, but I don't see any difference between before and after...
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Most men who move in with their girlfriends end up doing far more housework than they did when they lived by themselves. It's indeed mostly because men are different. My girlfriend will tell me the flat needs vacuuming, and ask me to do it, and I will oblige, but I don't see any difference between before and after...
Buy a Roomba.
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Which won't get in the corners...
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Which won't get in the corners...
it does 99% of everything, the other 1% is a lightning whip round every month.


I have used them for years now, I know their capabilities exactly.
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For Richdog they're one and the same.
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For Richdog they're one and the same.


I would hope that the same could be said for anyone else in a committed relationship with their household appliances.
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it does 99% of everything, the other 1% is a lightning whip round every month.


I have used them for years now, I know their capabilities exactly.
You live by yourself?
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You live by yourself?
Yup, and very house-trained.
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