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Old 18.09.2015, 13:04
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Let me assure you, Quay23 is not a premium venue .. In my humble opinion 100% markup on a bottle of wine about is fair. Although unlikely in switzerland admittedly.
Drinks are about x 3 or 3.5 usually, anywhere, UK included
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Old 18.09.2015, 13:13
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Paying 1.30 CHF more for something does not qualify for the term. At all.
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This isn't even close to the term, that's common sense you will find everywhere. Shops are more expensive than super markets in all countries.
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I do not quite see a reason for excitement. CHF 1.30 in the shop and CHF 2.60 in the restaurant is quite normal
I think you guys have to visit the Migros Supermarket in Zug to understand. You actually have to go through the restaurant to get to the supermarket part. As you enter the Migros the restaurant is on the ground floor and the supermarket is underground.

It's the same shop! And I called it a restaurant only because they serve hot food and you have the possibility to sit down and eat your food.

I agree it would be pretty normal to pay more for a drink in a restaurant. But this is just buying the same product from the same shop for double the price. No service, no glass, no nothing just the downstairs upstairs differential

PS: I did say it's Veteran* style because when you've been in Switzerland for so long... "jeder Rappen zählt!"

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Re: Being Switzerlanded - [ Vetran Style ]

Not only people are being Switzerlanded, also companies:-) After we (a small bank) informed the bank regulator FINMA about a change in our shareholdership, which we are required to tell them, we received back a letter acknowledging our letter with in attachment an invoice for 2'000fr. Our auditor confirmed that they are legally allowed to charge a minimum "forfait" of 2'000fr for their services irrespective of the actual time they spent on something. We already pay 15K per annum separately for their regulatory controls.

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Re: Being Switzerlanded - [ Veteran Style ]

Am I the only who feels that all examples so far in this thread are extremely general and cannot be linked to Switzerland?

- Of course a drink costs more in a restaurant than in a shop.
- Of course a bottle of prosecco is multiple times more expensive at a restaurant than at the store - and the location plays a huge roll in that too. Obviously.
- Of course a glass of prosecco is a lot cheaper in Italy than in CH. Do I even have to bother to mention the difference in salaries and general price of living..?

If all these examples are what you consider to happen only in CH, then you could be "Switzerlanded" in Sweden, UK, Spain, France or basically any country in the world.
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I think you guys have to visit the Migros Supermarket in Zug to understand. You actually have to go through the restaurant to get to the supermarket part. As you enter the Migros the restaurant is on the ground floor and the supermarket is underground.

It's the same shop! And I called it a restaurant only because they serve hot food and you have the possibility to sit down and eat your food.

I agree it would be pretty normal to pay more for a drink in a restaurant. But this is just buying the same product from the same shop for double the price. No service, no glass, no nothing just the downstairs upstairs differential

PS: I did say it's Veteran* style because when you've been in Switzerland for so long... "jeder Rappen zählt!"

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Re: Being Switzerlanded - [ Vetran Style ]

"I agree it would be pretty normal to pay more for a drink in a restaurant. But this is just buying the same product from the same shop for double the price. No service, no glass, no nothing just the downstairs upstairs differential "

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Well, if you enter a bar in Spain and decide to have a coffee, you have two options:

1) Have the coffee at the bar counter - approx EUR 1,20
2) Sit down at a table and drink the same coffee from the same machine - approx EUR 2,50.

You do not only pay for the contents, you pay for the location and services etc. It's pretty much the same in many places/countries.
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Well, if you enter a bar in Spain and decide to have a coffee, you have two options:

1) Have the coffee at the bar counter - approx EUR 1,20
2) Sit down at a table and drink the same coffee from the same machine - approx EUR 2,50.
This is exactly my point. It's not as if I'm sitting down where I expect to pay an additional premium for service. The Migros Restaurant / Take away counter just hands over the Bottle of drink to you or you can just pick it up yourself and pay for it. Pay for it upstairs and you pay CHF2.30 or pay for it downstairs and you pay CHF1.30.

Although I'm not sure you are allowed to take the drinks downstairs with you, I am not sure, but you can certainly pick the same drink downstairs instead of upstairs. But it's within the same premises!

Oh well my attempt for a light hearted thread has backfired! You guys have defo been in "Swiss" for far too long!
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The Migros Restaurant / Take away counterjust hands over the Bottle of drink to you or you can just pick it up yourself and pay for it. Pay for it upstairs and you pay CHF2.30 or pay for it downstairs and you pay CHF1.30.
Found your Swiss franc right there!
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Re: Being Switzerlanded - [ Vetran Style ]

Like in Migros Neumarkt Oerlikon, where I bought my lunch when I had school days (No more TBZ in Oerlikon).

You could either be a fool and wait in the long line at the Migros Gourmessa Counter on ground floor, or take the escalator, get the 50 Rappen 5dl Ice Tea Brick, a Zöpfli, Salami, some Fruits, Pay, go downs to the fools again, still waiting in the line, and wait until they have paid much more for their Schnitzelbrot and Ice Tea then you did for more food and more diverse food in less time.
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Not only people are being Switzerlanded, also companies:-) After we (a small bank) informed the bank regulator FINMA about a change in our shareholdership, which we are required to tell them, we received back a letter acknowledging our letter with in attachment an invoice for 2'000fr. Our auditor confirmed that they are legally allowed to charge a minimum "forfait" of 2'000fr for their services irrespective of the actual time they spent on something. We already pay 15K per annum separately for their regulatory controls.
Nowadays, I have only been switzerlanded (if there's such new verb in use) by sporadic traffic fines e.g. mainly parking tickets.

Btw, did you know that there is such a verb in German as schwitzen, which means to sweat, perspire or bleed. It's not for lolz of it, because every time I go to restaurant or pub for a drink in Zürich, I get sensation of sweating and my wallet starts bleeding.

Hence we say, Ich bin geschwitzt ins Veteranstil!
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Re: Being Switzerlanded - [ Vetran Style ]

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I think you guys have to visit the Migros Supermarket in Zug to understand. You actually have to go through the restaurant to get to the supermarket part. As you enter the Migros the restaurant is on the ground floor and the supermarket is underground.

It's the same shop! And I called it a restaurant only because they serve hot food and you have the possibility to sit down and eat your food.
Clearly the restaurant offers a different product than the actual store. The former not only offers the goods, but also a table and a seat. You can't pay the lunch you had in the restaurant in the basement, or vice versa.

Same building, same mother company, but not the same shop/entity.
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This is exactly my point. It's not as if I'm sitting down where I expect to pay an additional premium for service. The Migros Restaurant / Take away counter just hands over the Bottle of drink to you or you can just pick it up yourself and pay for it. Pay for it upstairs and you pay CHF2.30 or pay for it downstairs and you pay CHF1.30.

Although I'm not sure you are allowed to take the drinks downstairs with you, I am not sure, but you can certainly pick the same drink downstairs instead of upstairs. But it's within the same premises!

Oh well my attempt for a light hearted thread has backfired! You guys have defo been in "Swiss" for far too long!
What did you expect? It is Friday!
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What did you expect? It is Friday!
Here's how genuine Switzerlanded dude's story goes

Please BE WARNED! Over the last month I have become a victim of a clever 'Eastern European' scam whilst out shopping in Zürich.

Here's how the scam works:

Two very good-looking 20-21 year-old girls of eastern European origin come over to your car as you are packing your shopping into the boot. They both start cleaning your windscreen, their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy T- shirts. When you thank them and offer them a tip, they'll say 'No' and instead they ask you for a lift to another supermarket. You agree and they both get in the back seat.

On the way there, they start undressing, until both are completely naked. Then, when you pull over to remonstrate, one of them climbs over into the front seat and starts crawling all over your lap, kissing you, touching you intimately and thrusting herself against you, while the other one steals your wallet!

I had my wallet stolen on September 4th, 9th,10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 24th and 29th. Also on October 1st, 4th, 6th, 9th and 10th and twice yesterday.So please warn all the older men you know to be on the lookout for this scam in Zürich.

The best times seem to be just before lunch and about 4:30 in the afternoon.
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Clearly the restaurant offers a different product than the actual store. The former not only offers the goods, but also a table and a seat. You can't pay the lunch you had in the restaurant in the basement, or vice versa.

Same building, same mother company, but not the same shop/entity.
What you can do is buy the same product downstairs and consume it upstairs at the restaurant.

Cheeky? Maybe so! But this could be added to The Swiss Rules you love to break

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A) places to sit and eat
B) hot Food


this IS what is called an Imbiss Restaurant where things are more expensive then in the shop'
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Friend shows up from the US on BMW he keeps in Germany (with CA plates ).

Has problem with one of the supports for a side bag, mount is broken.

We go to local garage, they start immediately and spend half an hour cleaning, welding, painting.

Total cost: 0!

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I paid CHF 9 for a hot dog and CHF 6 for a small bottle of Evian in ZHR airport in a "restaurant".


Ouch.
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Re: Being Switzerlanded - [ Veteran Style ]

I guess this one is for the complaints corner but in the Migrolino on the concourse in HB Zürich, it'll cost you CHF 3.50 for a Coke, however in the supermarket a 5 min stroll away and under the station its CHF 1.50. Is this about convenience or is this trying to squeeze maximum profit?

Migro is a huge company in Swiss terms so it doesn't really need to charge so much, do they do this out of a fair and none competitive agreement to the competition? Or are Migrolinos franchises, where rent and overheads cost the Franchisee more?
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I guess this one is for the complaints corner but in the Migrolino on the concourse in HB Zürich, it'll cost you CHF 3.50 for a Coke, however in the supermarket a 5 min stroll away and under the station its CHF 1.50. Is this about convenience or is this trying to squeeze maximum profit?

Migro is a huge company in Swiss terms so it doesn't really need to charge so much, do they do this out of a fair and none competitive agreement to the competition? Or are Migrolinos franchises, where rent and overheads cost the Franchisee more?
The Migrolino is a different company which btw also sells beer and wine
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