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Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

What a nice way to start the week... Thanks!!!

I normally park my bicycle in Zug's train station.

Today when I arrived the back wheel was missing.

So, now you know, not even Zug is safe. Be careful.

Now I will buy a new wheel and a longer chain.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

was it a particularly nice wheel? was it on quick release skewers?
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was it a particularly nice wheel? was it on quick release skewers?
Standard wheel form a 70's Peugeot. Yes, with quick release. that was the problem... My fault to believe there is still safe places. Never again.
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Standard wheel form a 70's Peugeot. Yes, with quick release. that was the problem... My fault to believe there is still safe places. Never again.
that sucks. although QR makes it slightly quicker/easier to steal, it only takes seconds to release a wheel anyway. i guess the only way to prevent opportunist theft is to lock both wheels as well as the bike, but it is a pain to carry extra locks which will anyway not stop someone who is determined.
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that sucks. although QR makes it slightly quicker/easier to steal, it only takes seconds to release a wheel anyway. i guess the only way to prevent opportunist theft is to lock both wheels as well as the bike, but it is a pain to carry extra locks which will anyway not stop someone who is determined.
In the UK, especially London, where this sort of thing is endemic I'd always use a long cable lock to secure the two wheels and the saddle, as well as a more solid one to lock the bike to something. The normal level of security shown here is laughable by comparison, but of course the level of theft is also very much lower, even though for the most part you could simply walk round the street and pick up any bike you want, then cut the lock when you get it home.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

another way is to get special security bolts to fix the wheels, which need a key for removal.

i'm always surprised by how many people don't secure their bike to something. once, someone had tried to break the lock on a friend's bike, but succeeded only making it impossible for my friend to unlock it.

so we wheeled it some 20 minutes back home to cut the lock. during that time, nobody batted an eyelid at this apparent 'theft'.
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another way is to get special security bolts to fix the wheels, which need a key for removal.
We just bought Pitlocks for our bikes. It seems they should do the trick...

https://www.pitlock.de/en
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We just bought Pitlocks for our bikes. It seems they should do the trick...

https://www.pitlock.de/en
I can't help thinking these are a bit of an overkill. Someone nicking a wheel out of a 40-y-o tourer isn't likely to be carrying a toolset, so the simple replacement of the QR locking nut with a normal one would be enough to deter this sort of opportunist.

Anyway, there's no point whatsoever in having Q/R wheels if you're not carrying a puncture kit with you, and I suspect that's the case with less than 1% of the bikes fitted with them.

Personally I always do, but then I'm often faced with a >20km walk if I can't get my bike going, so it would be foolish indeed to go out unequipped. Same with a spoke key - I once got the wheel of my Mercian road bike caught in tram tracks (who hasn't?) which twisted it such that I couldn't have ridden it, but a couple of minutes with the spoke spanner was sufficient to get me home.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

An easy fix with QR skewers is to cable-tie the handle tight against some spokes (make sure you pick spokes such that the cable-tie can't just be slid off, obviously).

Carry nail clippers or something with your puncture repair kit (if you carry one).
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Anyway, there's no point whatsoever in having Q/R wheels if you're not carrying a puncture kit with you, and I suspect that's the case with less than 1% of the bikes fitted with them.
The QR is convenient even if you are not out on the road.

Plus, if you're carrying a puncture kit, you can also carry a small spanner to remove the wheel anyway.
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Standard wheel form a 70's Peugeot. Yes, with quick release. that was the problem... My fault to believe there is still safe places. Never again.
Bring back the death penalty, I say!




Seriously, though, sorry this happened to you.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

isnt this sort of thing more like vandalism/trolling than theft?

i can imagine applying ultra security to your crappy bike only to find it with a bent wheel or an extra lock applied to it.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

Despair despair! Zug is not safe anymore!

Maybe this belongs to the first-world problems thread better?
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

Strangely, my bike has QR on the front wheel and saddle post, but two bolts on the rear wheel. When I was in London I was able to buy a a thinnish cable that could be attached to the saddle and back to the frame (removal of saddle mounting bracket to install) to deter opportunists or the need to walk around with a saddle. Front wheel and frame always locked to stationary, fixed object.

I always carry a puncture kit in my saddle bag - although the rubber solution has probably dried out ..... plus a spanner that would fit the rear wheel bolts ....... oops!


Meanwhile, police in Zug are looking for a unicyclist with a high saddle and gears.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

Sorry this happened to you!
Would this be in a location where it may have been caught on video? I'm guessing you already thought of that, but just in case you didn't.

Wishing you the best...
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

Ah, sorry to hear that and thanks for posting this. Maybe now I will lock my bike differently!
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isnt this sort of thing more like vandalism/trolling than theft?

i can imagine applying ultra security to your crappy bike only to find it with a bent wheel or an extra lock applied to it.
No, this is no trolling or vandalism. They steal bike parts for selling them later. It's not about the making damage. IMHO.
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Re: Bicycle wheel stolen in Zug...

I think it is more likely vandalism. This morning I walked around geneva train station and there has to be at least 20 vandalized bikes. Missing wheels, detached wheels (they were chained to the bike but detached from the forks), detached tires, broken rims, bent frames. A popular trick is they take your saddle out, use the seat post as a handle to twist your chain lock. After 3 or 4 rounds, either the lock breaks free or got stuck (unable to unlock). I was a victim of vandalism twice, once with the twisted lock trick, and once someone just decided to bend the frame of my vicini bike.
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