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Old 08.10.2015, 12:05
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

So having posted on here yesterday about the benefits of being gently woken up by my dawn simulator and radio...

This morning, the radio turned on in the middle of a particularly loud song.

I woke up abruptly, and spent a minute fumbling around trying to turn the annoying noise off. NOT my idea of a gentle wakening. I shall have to complain to Lausanne FM.

But I was having a nightmare, so it was probably a good thing!
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A very typical 1st world problem.

I use to be woken up by my father who was in the army, because, if we do not bath before 5.30 am, there will be not another chance to bath until the same time next day, and you dont want to go to school/university, without bathing, when the normal temperature is 35-38 degrees and you love sports.

M sure on the other side of the spectrum are people who need a 150 CHF device to wake them up
Isn't it a bit expensive to house a grown man just to wake you up? Certainly it's more expensive than spending 150CHF once, isn't it?

Though your mother might be worth the expense. Got any pictures?
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

I get home at 6 am which is why I love night work but anyways on my iphone I have that dreadfull alarm sound (the loud emergency horn) wakes me up everytime!! I also allow myself 2-3 snoozes so I set it 30 min in advance so I can slowly wake up.
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

Let someone set the alarm device (whatever it is, 150$ device or a phone or a regular one) and hide it in the room.

You will wake up, trying to find it
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Old 08.10.2015, 15:45
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

I invariably wake up about 5-10 mins before the alarm is due to go off, then proceed to turn it off as soon as it does, fall back asleep and miss my train.
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Old 08.10.2015, 15:58
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I invariably wake up about 5-10 mins before the alarm is due to go off, then proceed to turn it off as soon as it does, fall back asleep and miss my train.
that reminds me a bit of an old boss, he didnt turn up till 11 one morning, hed made it on the train, fallen asleep and not only hadnt he woken up at liverpool street, the train returned to the home counties and he only woke up when the conductor shook him on his shoulder.
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Old 08.10.2015, 16:00
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

I toughed it out this morning, I got up this morning after the phone alarm, just like that, I'm a bit grumpy though and not looking forward to repeating the process.
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Old 08.10.2015, 16:19
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

I believe it was mentioned a couple of times, but the idea that people sleep in 1.5 hour "cycles" is true (it varies slightly between individuals but is around 90 minutes). A lot of these "wake up to sunrise" lights only work because it's more likely the light will be on during the end of one of these cycles.

So try setting your alarm to come on 6 or 7.5 hours after you've fallen asleep. In other words, if you know it takes you around half an hour to fall properly sleep once you get into bed, your alarm should go off after 6.5 or 8 hours from when you get into bed.
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Old 08.10.2015, 17:10
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I toughed it out this morning, I got up this morning after the phone alarm, just like that, I'm a bit grumpy though and not looking forward to repeating the process.
That's where the coffee comes in.
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Old 08.10.2015, 18:01
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I believe it was mentioned a couple of times, but the idea that people sleep in 1.5 hour "cycles" is true (it varies slightly between individuals but is around 90 minutes). A lot of these "wake up to sunrise" lights only work because it's more likely the light will be on during the end of one of these cycles.

So try setting your alarm to come on 6 or 7.5 hours after you've fallen asleep. In other words, if you know it takes you around half an hour to fall properly sleep once you get into bed, your alarm should go off after 6.5 or 8 hours from when you get into bed.
yes, thats what i tried to do last night but for various reasons, I couldnt get to sleep in the usual 5-10 mins and ended up awake for 2 more hours! which threw the calculations way out.
I'm going to experiment more.
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Old 09.10.2015, 00:44
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

Radio alarm, plus a back-up phone alarm work for me.

The SONOS system is quite good for that, has zero lights / displays, can be set with multiple alarms from any source of music, and has full internet radio. I set one at a lower volume, followed by the same station 10 mins later at a higher volume.
BBC 6Music is pretty good in the morning.
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Old 10.10.2015, 12:27
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

Has any one tried the Philips Hue lights starter kit with accompanying sunrise sunshine app.

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does it seem fiddly? unworkable or very efficient?
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Old 10.10.2015, 17:18
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

ok, i thought i'd try this for a bit of fun because the alternative was doing something necessary yet scary.

Set up the automator on the mac to run a youtube/vimeo sunrise video at 5.30 am. (a sort of clock simulation but use your mac instead). ps there are some pretty nice vimeo sunrises.

The youtube video I found is of a california sunrise. who doesnt want to wake up to one of those. I dont know if it will work (be bright enough) but I like to fiddle around with my mac.

Here are the steps.

download the youtube video with voila bits (free)

Open Automator (applications folder).

Click on utilities, drag run applescript to window
cut and paste the following

set brightness_level to 0.0

tell application "System Events"
tell application "System Preferences" to reveal the anchor "displaysDisplayTab" of pane named "Displays"
tell slider 1 of group 1 of tab group 1 of window 1 of process "System Preferences"
set value to brightness_level
end tell
end tell

this lowers your screen brightness to 0 so you dont get a shock.

click on movies, drag get specified movies to the window and add movie (youtube you downloaded)

click files folders, drag open finder items into window and chose vlc (this worked better than quicktime for me)

click on the record button top right and go to your vlc video and click on the toggle full screen. stop recording.

click movies, drag play movies into window, set to play one loop

click utilities, drag pause to window, set 3 seconds. why? because the toggle takes a little while and you want to next increase your screen brightness so the video looks brighter without getting a shock.

click utilities, drag run applescript to window, copy this to raise screen brightness.

set brightness_level to 1.0

tell application "System Events"
tell application "System Preferences" to reveal the anchor "displaysDisplayTab" of pane named "Displays"
tell slider 1 of group 1 of tab group 1 of window 1 of process "System Preferences"
set value to brightness_level
end tell
end tell

save as an application not workflow.

go to ical, set up an event (on your mac, not icloud), set up the alert to open automator file you saved, first run will ask you to do some stuff to give the automator access to your system, just follow and do.

and thats it lol

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Old 10.10.2015, 22:59
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

Just set your MP3 player to play this , loud !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F2RNOCyXe0
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

But seriously , I never had a problem getting up , regardless of how little I've slept/ how many whiskeys I've downed as I have to get to work/start my day on time.
Once my alarm rings, have always had the habit to never use the snooze button, I dig my elbows and hands into the bed and push myself off of the bed.
That's it.
You could just try develop this good habit.
All the best !!
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

Social Alarm clock at Rescue!!

https://wakie.com/

That's an app for your smartphone, you just set the alarm and you'll be woken by a stranger calling, the call might last up until 60seconds. The fact that it is a stranger, makes you really try to be awake, it works

And if you feel like you like to wake strangers you can participate too!
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Old 11.10.2015, 16:16
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And if you feel like you like to wake strangers you can participate too!
Now that is a brilliant thought. The idea of being able to cut short someone else's beauty sleep would more than compensate for having to wake even earlier myself!
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Now that is a brilliant thought. The idea of being able to cut short someone else's beauty sleep would more than compensate for having to wake even earlier myself!
I've been looking more into the cruelty free options.. lol

the automator half worked this morning, the mac woke up at a loow light and the low light took 10+ minutes to wake me but best of all I didnt feel affronted by my alarm.

I think there is something to this slow low light getting brighter approach to getting up. I jigged the automator a bit and hopefully it works fully tomorrow morning.

In my head at the moment, its still early days, is I'll probably end up buying the phillips hue lights (because they are fun, you can prank your parents with them, and they do more than one thing) with an outside chance of the sunrise alarm.
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

The solution is above - there are wrist-worn solutions that track your deep/shallow sleep routines and will wake you before a given time when you're shallow. You feel much better less worse about waking up at that time.

Presently, for example, I am able to wake up at 0400 without too much issue. Any day...! Weekends would be different but I have good reason to be awake at 0400 right now.
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Re: 6am.. alarm woes

Which one do you use or recommend? Any one of these?
This could be very handy, I looked at jawbone up but wondered about putting it on every night, recharging it? It had some food features too that might be handy if you are trying to work out what is causing alergies.
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