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Advice about uncollected rubbish

Hello,

I'm new to Basel and this forum. I have tried searching the forum and Google for an answer to my question, but have not managed to find anything. Apologies if I missed it.

I live in a new apartment building with a locked underground rubbish container that we put our Bebbi sacks in. The last couple of weeks there seems to be a problem where one person puts their bag outside the container, then many more people follow suit. Although the container is not full, they assume it is and just dump all their sacks. I don't know why the first person does it, or if it's one person or several people.

Now we have a problem where the bin men are not collecting the underground bins or the sacks outside, and there is a huge pile of sacks. Twice in a row I have seen them arrive, they just take pictures and drive off.

The container is right outside my flat, so I have a significant interest in resolving it. Does anyone have any advice about who I should contact and the correct process to follow? I am not sure if I should be contacting the management agent for the building, or the Tiefbauamt, or if I should be making a specific complaint. Presumably the Tiefbauamt are aware of the situation, as their employees are taking photographs.

Any advice much appreciated. Thanks very much.
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Old 20.10.2015, 12:44
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

Write to the agency, they can then send a notice to everyone to buck up their ideas.

More pragmatically, take one for the team next collection day. Shove the bags into the skip, so that at least it'll get emptied before there's physically no room for them. It'll piss you off, but at least you won't have several-week-old waste rotting outside your window. I wouldn't do it more than once though, otherwise you'll become the "rubbish bag man".
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

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Hello,

I'm new to Basel and this forum. I have tried searching the forum and Google for an answer to my question, but have not managed to find anything. Apologies if I missed it.

I live in a new apartment building with a locked underground rubbish container that we put our Bebbi sacks in. The last couple of weeks there seems to be a problem where one person puts their bag outside the container, then many more people follow suit. Although the container is not full, they assume it is and just dump all their sacks. I don't know why the first person does it, or if it's one person or several people.

Now we have a problem where the bin men are not collecting the underground bins or the sacks outside, and there is a huge pile of sacks. Twice in a row I have seen them arrive, they just take pictures and drive off.

The container is right outside my flat, so I have a significant interest in resolving it. Does anyone have any advice about who I should contact and the correct process to follow? I am not sure if I should be contacting the management agent for the building, or the Tiefbauamt, or if I should be making a specific complaint. Presumably the Tiefbauamt are aware of the situation, as their employees are taking photographs.

Any advice much appreciated. Thanks very much.
FOR BL;
you might need to talk to the "Garbage Police"

https://www.baselland.ch/konk-017-htm.288482.0.html

or try to contact Gemeinde via :

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Amt für Umweltschutz und Energie
Rheinstrasse 29
Postfach
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Tel. 061 552 55 05
Fax 061 552 69 84
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

mirfield, tassabar, thanks. I'm sorry, I should have specified, I live in Basel-Stadt. The problem now is that because 2 collections were missed, and although the container is still not quite full, there are far too many bags outside to fit in the container. And the mound keeps growing :-(. I will contact the agency and see what they say.
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

With a sixpack of local Swiss beers in hand when the truck arrives, say to the guys "Schmutzige schmutzige Ausländer, können Sie mir helfen?" and reply with Yaya to everthing, problem solved forever.
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

Wait, you say it is a "locked underground rubbish container", then say it is right outside your flat. Is your flat in the basement?

Is it possible that non-residents have been dumping their bags there and others have simply copied? Anyway, the first point of call would be the Hauswart or agency.
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

gaemsbock, does your building have a concierge? If yes, contact that individual first. If no, contact the agency as recommended by others.

Option 2 is mirfield's pragmatic suggestion. You could follow this up with a printed notice (place this outside the bin or, better still, into everyone's mailbox) detailing what you did and that you would be grateful if they remember to place the sacks inside. It might be that there's someone who is not aware of what ought to be done.
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

PaddyG, I am on the first floor. My balcony is looking right over the pile of sacks, and even in this cold weather, I can smell it from there. The underground container would not be a problem, except that the sacks are placed not inside it, but rather next to the entrance chute, and then not collected.

I suspect that the original bags come from someone without a key, but the problem is greatly exacerbated by the assumption by almost the whole building that a sack placed outside the chute means the underground container is full.

vuachère, there is no concierge.

I have contacted the agency... they said they will call me back.
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

At least you're not in this situation (in Zürich today):

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zuerich/...egal--18926692
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

Sorry to hear what happened, and I am curious how it would be solved(hopefully very soon!).

Something similar happened at my building, but to a much less annoying extent. There was a non-degradable COOP plastic bag in the green trash bin, which I noticed on a Monday when throwing away kitchen waste; then after the collection truck came on Wed, the bag (with some trash inside, no idea what it was of course) was thrown out on the grass next to the green bin, laying there for the next three weeks...I suppose it was the trash collectors that put it on the grass, in order to both warn residents not to throw this into the green bin and urge whoever did it to take it back (which unfortunately didn't happen)...

In the end it was gone, I wouldn't believe it was the trash collectors finally decided to forgive whoever did it, but just some one took one for the team (for which I'd pay great gratitude...)

I wonder what are the coded of conduct for trash collectors when they meet such out-of-line behaviors.
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Re: Advice about uncollected rubbish

oosoo, the agency rang me back and she was quite concerned and said she'd call the city right away and find out what is going on. Half an hour later a truck turned up and removed all the bags. I don't if this was as a result of the call or if they had already planned to do this. The underground container hasn't been emptied, and is at about 90% capacity, so I don't think the problem is exactly solved, as it will certainly be full before Friday when the binmen come again for the container. I'll try to manage it this week by putting as many sacks in the container as possible, and moving the others out of the way so they don't interfere with the container collection, then putting the overfill ones in the container when emptied... but I don't want this to become my job! I'm away for the weekend so will see what it's like when I come back.

I would also presume that there is some system to manage non-compliance, i.e. people dumping the sacks outside the container when it is full (or they think it is full). There are other containers in the complex we can use - it's just this one is preferred because it's near the exit.
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