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Now I must post TINS Restaurant Breiti 8704 Herrliburg was excellent, all you can eat Metzger buffet for 29 Chuffs great friendly staff plus 25 in change from the voucher. We will be going back.
You need to got to another restaurant next time as swiss restaurant food is bad, staff unfriendly and incompetent and everything's ridiculously overpriced.
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You need to got to another restaurant next time as swiss restaurant food is bad, staff unfriendly and incompetent and everything's ridiculously overpriced.
I don't think the staff are unfriendly or incompetent. The food's usually competently cooked too. They're not overpriced either all things considered.

Most have really dull menus though!*

*But hey, what would I know, I'm not Swiss like you, the world leading connoisseurs of fine food.
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I don't think the staff are unfriendly or incompetent. The food's usually competently cooked too. They're not overpriced either all things considered.

Most have really dull menus though!*

*But hey, what would I know, I'm not Swiss like you, the world leading connoisseurs of fine food.
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Thanks for the reddies Tom.

As for your "Stop acting like a petulant child", coming from you this is nothing short of hilarious. Thanks for making my day

You're welcome. You seem take any criticism of this country so personally.

You keep saying that Swiss restaurants and cuisine is the best in the world (or words to that effect) and everyone else's is rubbish and when I ask you to explain why, you never respond.

You think I am having a go at the Swiss but I'm not. I love lots of the stuff in the Swiss supermarkets, especially some of the stuff that a lot of people here criticise such as the fruit and veg but I do find them, and the restaurants generally pretty dull.

So again, why are the restaurants and supermarkets so exciting?

Why not some constructive comments instead instead of your sarcastic comments like the one above?
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I do find them, and the restaurants generally pretty dull.
Dull - as in? What would you expect to see? (Based on the culture and history of the country)

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Dull - as in? What would you expect to see? (Based on the culture and history of the country)
What did I expect - exciting menus?

I don't expect much to be honest but when you get it rammed down your throat the whole time that Swiss cuisine is some of the best in the world and everyone else's is so poor compared with it, it gets a bit tiresome.

(that's outside of this forum).

There is something going for Switzerland as far as dining out is concerned - it's sandwiched between France, Germany, Italy and Austria where dining out is a much for pleasant affair.
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What did I expect - exciting menus?

I don't expect much to be honest but when you get it rammed down your throat the whole time that Swiss cuisine is some of the best in the world and everyone else's is so poor compared with it, it gets a bit tiresome.

(that's outside of this forum).

There is something going for Switzerland as far as dining out is concerned - it's sandwiched between France, Germany, Italy and Austria where dining out is a much for pleasant affair.
None of them are completely fine - food in France is generally good but service is typically awful, Austria and Germany can't claim much more in the way of variety but you do get decent service and quantity, Italy is broadly good but also randomly bad even going to the same place.

The Swiss like it the way it is - reliable but not exceptional service, food, quantity, even price (compared to top-end stuff in other capitals).
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Old 30.11.2015, 16:18
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None of them are completely fine - food in France is generally good but service is typically awful, Austria and Germany can't claim much more in the way of variety but you do get decent service and quantity, Italy is broadly good but also randomly bad even going to the same place.

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Disagree. I've had awful service here more times than in France and (obviously) I've eaten out in France a lot more times than here.

I've had fantastic food in Germany - miles better than here and I don't measure the quality of a restaurant by the amount of food on a plate so not sure why you feel the need to mention it - unless that's important to you.

And yes, I appreciate that the Swiss typically like things the way they are - dull and safe that's fine but perhaps they ought to quit complaining about the food in other countries which is vastly more sophisticated - especially in places like India, Pakistan, Thailand and others.
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Disagree. I've had awful service here more times than in France and (obviously) I've eaten out in France a lot more times than here.
I guess we've both been lucky / unlucky in opposite directions depending how you look at it. Possibly not speaking much French hasn't helped me.

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I've had fantastic food in Germany - miles better than here and I don't measure the quality of a restaurant by the amount of food on a plate so not sure why you feel the need to mention it - unless that's important to you.
I don't, but the Germans seem to - both from my experience in Germany and working with Germans. I've also had fantastic food in Germany, but no better than here, very similar I would say - and certainly not in traditional local dishes in either case.

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And yes, I appreciate that the Swiss typically like things the way they are - dull and safe that's fine but perhaps they ought to quit complaining about the food in other countries which is vastly more sophisticated - especially in places like India, Pakistan, Thailand and others.
I think I misrepresented this - it seems to be the restaurants that like it dull and safe, not necessarily the people. Interestingly there are more Thai and Indian (/Pakistani) restaurants appearing, and our Swiss friends seem to enjoy them.

But of course the Swiss restaurants will take another ten years to notice, and ten more to decide to change if at all.
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The Swiss like it the way it is - reliable but not exceptional service, food, quantity, even price (compared to top-end stuff in other capitals).
And what would the majority of the population know???

For some reason I am reminded of being out for breakfast in New York and overhearing a conversation along the lines of:
"I'll take the ham and cheese omelet"
"OK"
"What cheese is used?"
"Chedder"
"Can I get it with Swiss cheese?"
"Sure, no problem"
"And make it an egg white omelet"
"OK, so a white ham and cheese omelet"
"Hold the ham, can I have peppers and tomatos instead"
"Sure, so a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet"
"Is the greek yoghurt low fat?"
"No, its fat free"
"OK I'll take that"
"So a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet and a greek yoghurt - do you want that with fresh fruit or granola?"
"Can I get both?"
"No problem"
"And hold the omelet"
"No omelet then"
"Nope"
"So a greek yoghurt with fresh fruit and granola"
"Great. What's the fruit?"
"Blueberries and strawberries"
"ahhh"
"ahhh?"
"Do you have any other fruit? I'm not keen on blueberries"
"We have banana."
"oh.
"Oh?"
"OK then, I'll go back to the omelet"
"So no yoghurt? Just the white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet."
"Yes. With a side of sausages - cut in half and fried till extra crispy."
"And to drink?"
"I'll take a coffee"
"So a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet, a side of sausage and a coffee"
"And juice"
"Juice?"
"Yes juice"
"We have orange, grapefruit, pineapple, orange and mango, apple or grape"
"Can I get a half and half orange and grapefruit?"
"Sure."
"Great!"
"So a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet, a side of sausage and a coffee and a half-n-half orange grapefruit juice. Milk? Cream? for the coffee"
"Do you have half/n/half?"
"Yes"
"OK - I'll take the milk then"

<Juice arrives>
"Half-n-half orange and grapefruit"
"Thanks. This tastes a bit orangey. Which way round did you pour it?"
"Orange first and then grapefruit"
"Ahhh."
"ahhh?"
"It tastes like there is too much orange in it. Can you do it the other way round?"
"Sure"

<Takes juice, pours new juice, new juice arrives>
"Half-n-half orange and grapefruit"
"Thanks. Hmmm"
"Hmmm?"
"I think I preferred the first one."

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Old 30.11.2015, 16:36
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Re: TIS - This Is Switzerland

Wow, in New York?

Last time I tried to order a sandwich there, I hesitated for less than a second trying to work out what the guy had said too fast for me to hear, and the entire queue behind me started complaining!

It's like being at the lights in Italy - I'm sure the speed of light should mean the cars behind see the green at least a few nanoseconds later, but no...
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Re: TIS - This Is Switzerland

it's all about local knowledge and doing one's research, innit? there are good and bad restaurants everywhere but I've been most disappointed in Italy where I expected a generally good level of food but where I got skinned for all kinds of BS charges (cover, service, menu etc etc) then got a shite meal.

I use trip advisor religiously now for restaurants in and out CH
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Anyway, this is all a bit off topic This thread is surely about quirky things that happen here and eating out isn't one of them.
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And what would the majority of the population know???

For some reason I am reminded of being out for breakfast in New York and overhearing a conversation along the lines of:
"I'll take the ham and cheese omelet"
"OK"
"What cheese is used?"
"Chedder"
"Can I get it with Swiss cheese?"
"Sure, no problem"
"And make it an egg white omelet"
"OK, so a white ham and cheese omelet"
"Hold the ham, can I have peppers and tomatos instead"
"Sure, so a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet"
"Is the greek yoghurt low fat?"
"No, its fat free"
"OK I'll take that"
"So a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet and a greek yoghurt - do you want that with fresh fruit or granola?"
"Can I get both?"
"No problem"
"And hold the omelet"
"No omelet then"
"Nope"
"So a greek yoghurt with fresh fruit and granola"
"Great. What's the fruit?"
"Blueberries and strawberries"
"ahhh"
"ahhh?"
"Do you have any other fruit? I'm not keen on blueberries"
"We have banana."
"oh.
"Oh?"
"OK then, I'll go back to the omelet"
"So no yoghurt? Just the white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet."
"Yes. With a side of sausages - cut in half and fried till extra crispy."
"And to drink?"
"I'll take a coffee"
"So a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet, a side of sausage and a coffee"
"And juice"
"Juice?"
"Yes juice"
"We have orange, grapefruit, pineapple, orange and mango, apple or grape"
"Can I get a half and half orange and grapefruit?"
"Sure."
"Great!"


"So a white tomato, peppers and swiss cheese omelet, a side of sausage and a coffee and a half-n-half orange grapefruit juice. Milk? Cream? for the coffee"
"Do you have half/n/half?"
"Yes"
"OK - I'll take the milk then"

<Juice arrives>
"Half-n-half orange and grapefruit"
"Thanks. This tastes a bit orangey. Which way round did you pour it?"
"Orange first and then grapefruit"
"Ahhh."
"ahhh?"
"It tastes like there is too much orange in it. Can you do it the other way

round?"
"Sure"

<Takes juice, pours new juice, new juice arrives>
"Half-n-half orange and grapefruit"
"Thanks. Hmmm"
"Hmmm?"
"I think I preferred the first one."

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I've had fantastic food in Germany
So have I. Once.

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I don't measure the quality of a restaurant by the amount of food on a plate
Germans seem to do so.

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Wow, in New York?

Last time I tried to order a sandwich there, I hesitated for less than a second trying to work out what the guy had said too fast for me to hear, and the entire queue behind me started complaining!

It's like being at the lights in Italy - I'm sure the speed of light should mean the cars behind see the green at least a few nanoseconds later, but no...
you should look up the definition of the "new york second"
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So have I. Once.



Germans seem to do so.

Tom
Why does every conversation about how bad Swiss food is get turned around into a discussion about how bad people think other countries' food is?

That really speaks volumes for how good Swiss food is.
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Why does every conversation about how bad Swiss food is get turned around into a discussion about how bad people think other countries' food is?

That really speaks volumes for how good Swiss food is.
Not to mention Gregg`s Pies.
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There is something going for Switzerland as far as dining out is concerned - it's sandwiched between France, Germany, Italy and Austria where dining out is a much for pleasant affair.
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Why does every conversation about how bad Swiss food is get turned around into a discussion about how bad people think other countries' food is?

That really speaks volumes for how good Swiss food is.
You started it
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You started it
That's not fair.

I've already explained why I think Swiss food is dull and uninspiring - and that's why I would rather go abroad to eat out .

I really can't be bothered to repeat myself here.


But, no one has come back with all the reasons why it is so good and so much better than anyone else's.

But, obviously, I'm alone in this view. That's fine. I can handle it.

En guete! *

* Does that really mean "Oh, no, not this s**t again!" ?
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