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Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

I've recently bought a new house and doing some DIY bits and pieces around the place. Two of the doors in the house had the previous kids names glued to the doors with letters and once removed left behind a perfect shape of the name in a lighter shade of the wood (see attached photo) and I'm scratching my head on how to get rid of them.

The doors are veneered (very thin) so I don't want to use a sander on them. I'm also reluctant to stain them a darker colour to hide the marks as I will then have to stain all the doors and door frames in the rest of the house to match! Any ideas!!??

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I've recently bought a new house and doing some DIY bits and pieces around the place. Two of the doors in the house had the previous kids names glued to the doors with letters and once removed left behind a perfect shape of the name in a lighter shade of the wood (see attached photo) and I'm scratching my head on how to get rid of them.

The doors are veneered (very thin) so I don't want to use a sander on them. I'm also reluctant to stain them a darker colour to hide the marks as I will then have to stain all the doors and door frames in the rest of the house to match! Any ideas!!??
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Change your own kids names by deed poll to match the names on the doors?
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Frankly, unless you sand them, I don't see what else can be done....
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Re: Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

It would only need a very light sanding..
Steel wool is generally used in french polishing to avoid going to deep and maintain the original look. Might be enough to clean it up.

My mother was a (scottish) french polisher .. I remember her using it on pianos ..


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Re: Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

Being serious, as Nil suggested, sanding is the way to go. A light sand will take much less than a millimeter of the surface.

But, you'll have to choose a varnish that brings it back to the darker colour that it was before sanding otherwise it will still be too light compared with the other doors.
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Re: Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

I'm far from an expert but I had similar problems.

Two possibilities:
a) remains of the glue are responsible for the difference. Perhaps try some solvent, but tread cautiosly in order not to affect the varnish. I would expect to notice some remains noticeably on top of the varnish
b) the glue affected the varnish, reacted with it. Re-varnishing should help though some small differences may still be visible

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From the looks of it I'd tend to expecting a) because the underlying texture isn't visible behind the marks.
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Chemical stripping?

Trying sanding using a fine grit by hand and see what happens. If the door takes it get out the eccentric sander and do the whole door. You'll not need to lift much varnish to get it looking good.

(Count yourself lucky - this is what I am having to work on)

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Chemical stripping?

Trying sanding using a fine grit by hand and see what happens. If the door takes it get out the eccentric sander and do the whole door. You'll not need to lift much varnish to get it looking good.

(Count yourself lucky - this is what I am having to work on)

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I thought about chemical striping too but wasn't sure which product to buy - any recommendations of something I can find in Bau & Hobby type shops?

p.s your project looks like hell on earth! Good luck with that! ;0)
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Re: Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

Try this options, I can not see the kind of glue so....
- With a razor blade or similar. With a lot of patience and a soft hand you should be able to clean the glue little by little.
- You can apply also nail polish remover and /or heat with care in order to prevent scratches.
- At the end, if needed you can use a very light sandpaper ( 500 and 1000 in this order) to clean or hide the scratches.

But if you have to sand the door you can do it with no problems you only need to removal a layer of 0.1-0.4mm+- .After sand you can apply oil or wash, it is very easy and the wood looks nicer.

And take in account that ' the big scratch' you see when you are working in the door is invisible to most of the people when the door is in his place :-).
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Re: Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

Are you an owner or a tenant?

If you're a tenant, make this your landlord's problem. If you mess things up and make anything worse, this will hit you with vengance.

If you're the owner, I concur with what others have said.

- check for remains of glue, if found remove carefully with very small quantity of solvent

- sand with finest sandpaper you can get, only working in the direction of the grain. Veneer is normally tougher than you might imagine. I might even be bold and take this at it, doing teh entire surface evenly



But being careful not to apply pressure and to use the finestt emery available.

Then wax or stain the fresh surface.

I believe you can also have new veneer fitted to old doors but no idea about costs.
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^^^ The original and best quality Multi-tool you can buy!! Ryhner has the 350 discounted at the moment (here)

(Totally overkill for the job)
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Old 09.12.2015, 11:56
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Cool easy fix recommendation. Get one of those door stickers ...
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(Count yourself lucky - this is what I am having to work on)

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Oh God. Getting rid of the carpet is certainly a good idea, but I probably would consider laying a new parquet (material costs: say c. 50 Fr / sq M ), or more likely even tiling, over the old one, unless the budget is really tight and the value of own time is rated at a very low CHF / Hour.
IMHO, even if that 60's or 70's style parquet was restored to perfect original condition, it would still look horrible. (each to his own style, of course).

Back to the OP, an orbital sander with fine grade of paper (say 180) used carefully should present little risk of breaking through the veneer. A disk or belt sander, however, should not be used in such circumstances.
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Another option ...
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Looks it will be painful when one will go out for a forest running session!
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Cool easy fix recommendation. Get one of those door stickers ...
I sorry but it's this sort of thing that gives DIY a bad name.

The way I look at DIY you should be able to make an equivalent or better job than the professionals because you can dedicate more time and care to a job (although overall it may take much longer).
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I sorry but it's this sort of thing that gives DIY a bad name.

The way I look at DIY you should be able to make an equivalent or better job than the professionals because you can dedicate more time and care to a job (although overall it may take much longer).
You will still need to undo the door knob and lock. Also make sure that the whole sticker is evenly spread on the surface without leaving air bubbles. That should impress the missus.
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You will still need to undo the door knob and lock. Also make sure that the whole sticker is evenly spread on the surface without leaving air bubbles. That should impress the missus.
Is your missus easily impressed then?
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Is your missus easily impressed then?
Just pulling your leg Tom. The above is kiddos jobby.

I used to work with orbital sanders, as one above, before and DIY stuff. It used to be fun back then. However, in Switzerland it makes me lazy to invest in this kind of stuff in a rented apartment. The table with coarse and fine sandpaper along with can of varnish are still waiting in my basement for better times ...
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Re: Any DIY experts out there? Need some advice......

This often happens if the rest of the door has received any wax polish, and obviously the bits under the door haven't. The waxed parts go darker over time. If the surface seems uniform I'd try a solvent of some sort over it first. Waxing only over the pale parts might work but it will take months to tell if it works or not. Otherwise sanding will probably do it.
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