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Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

Seems strange but I'm sure there's more beggars in CH this Christmas than before, I've been asked almost every day either in Wetzikon or oerlikon for money, I don't really carry much money with me I tend to use the card
On my recent visit to France I saw on a night out people genuinely sleeping rough and on one particular occasion left him a box containing a pizza and 5euro (all I had ) it's hard though to separate the real homeless from the ones who are not
We are fortunate to live a nice lifestyle please spare a thought for those who are less fortunate this Christmas where ever you are just a hot drink or a little something might make someone's day
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Re: Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

In Switzerland don't give money it's usually for alcohol or drugs. Desperate cases are only given a limited amount of cash money while everything else is managed by the curatorship (i don't know if this word is correct).
Anyway it's much safer to donate money to a charity in my opinion than playing dice by giving money to someone in the street.
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Re: Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

But some people don't even have s home to go to or an address to register themselves at?? How can you say that l, there's so many people out there that need a warm blanket,coffee or warm meal come on people lets show compassion
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Re: Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

There's one case which is quite odd imo. There's this homeless lady who lives right next to the UBS at Geneva Station. I have been seeing her living there for years now. I go out at 12 am, she's there. I go there at 3 pm on Sunday, she's there. How is it possible for a homeless to literally live on the street in Geneva and no one bats an eye?
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Re: Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

I agree with Meerkat33 on this. There's people like Heilsarmee who go out to help homeless people and they do a great job.

When we left the UK, we gave most of our furniture to charity (and it wasn't cheap stuff). Upon arrival here, we bought most of our furniture and household items from the Heilsarmee Brocki. Anything I need for our apartment, I make a point of checking their Brocki before hitting the shops. I see this as a practical way of helping a charity I strongly believe in and they've had a good few hundred CHF off me over the last month.
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Re: Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

Give them warm food, drinks, clothes. Never money.
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...Anyway it's much safer to donate money to a charity in my opinion than playing dice by giving money to someone in the street.
I agree. However, if you take the time to talk to some of these people - which is often as appreciated as much as a meal, or a hot drink - you may find that they're just ordinary folk who've fallen between the welfare cracks. Or the money they had at the start of the month has run out, because they're rubbish at budgeting.

It's easy to spot the professional beggars - they only want money and reject offers of food.
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Re: Spare A thought for homeless this Christmas

I suspect there are more people out and about simply because the weather is so mild. There are good 'pickings' to be had around Christmas, and organised groups of beggars definitely come and go through Zurich around now, and over Summer.

It's just too cold when the snow really hits...then they mostly disappear to somewhere else.

As mentioned, the social systems here are very strong, as well as begging not being tolerated. Those who do beg, are probably not from Switzerland, from organised groups, or taking a massive risk...

I saw a guy with a disability begging in the Zurich centre one summer. It took about 5 minutes for the police to track him down and confront him...

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-sc...ggars/30165030

This article above points out that the 'organised' groups are most likely Roma, generally associated with Romania (although there are Roma throughout Europe), who have minimal other work opportunities through winter, so begging is a viable option, but the criticism is that the money very often does not go to the women/children you see begging, but to someone higher up the 'food chain'...
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