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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

I would not try to coerce a 13yr old new comer into anything else but intensively catch up on the local language. It is not an easy age to transfer here, regarding the streaming system.
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Thanks to everyone. TheSpouse, and others, can you tell me about child-minders? Is there an agency that hires them out? Approximate cost? Location is Zurich.
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

As MusikChick says- your main concern is with the 13 year old, due to streaming system at 11- which clearly cuts the student population into 'academic- non-academic/vocational'. Little will be fine as will have time to catch up with language before streaming.

'Some' German will make little difference with the above academic criteria. Would you be able to afford for older child to go to private International school?
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Others will have to help you with that, as my children are grown and I have no personal experience.

However, all of that becomes moot if you decide to put your kids in private international school. Those schools keep your kids all day. This route is the normal route for most ex-pats, especially in families where both parents work and especially for people who don't plan on being here for the long term. If this is the route that you are going to chose, you need to start negotiating NOW with your employer to have some or all of this cost included in your employment package.

The other things you want to start negotiating now are: 1) a relocation expert on this end to help you find an apartment. 2) A Switzerland-wide train/metro/bus pass called a "GA" for all of you. 3) Either a 20-foot or 40-foot container shipment from your house in the US to your eventual house here.

They're not going to give you all of this, but it doesn't hurt to ask!
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Thanks to everyone. TheSpouse, and others, can you tell me about child-minders? Is there an agency that hires them out? Approximate cost? Location is Zurich.
You could also review whether your child/ children could be sent to Tagesfamilie over the two to two one-half hour "noon hour":

http://www.gfz-zh.ch/tagesfamilien
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Here is the Zurich kanton webpage about care for school children (in German - you may need to pipe it thru Google Translate).

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/ssd/de/...ung_horte.html

It has details about the different options and whether or not you qualify for a subsidy.

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Here is the Zurich kanton webpage about care for school children (in German - you may need to pipe it thru Google Translate).

It has details about the different options and whether or not you qualify for a subsidy.

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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

You folks are hilarious. Not sure if you are trying to be...but you are.
Thanks for all of the input, folks. I am reading, learning, and laughing.
And for the record, we only bake our chickens.
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Childcare here is.. awkward and expensive. And very likely not what you've been used to. That having been said, your kids aren't tiny and that will probably make it easier.



Would you get any relocation assistance with a move here? They should be able to at least answer questions too!


All the best, whatever you decide.


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Working parents with kids in CH

I can say from personal experience that if at least one of you accepts a position as a full professor, then you, your spouse and children under 18 should get a C permit. It does not matter if you are EU/ not EU or from Mars.

Can't help you with kids. But, a few other things ....if you're hired by one of the kantonal unis, this is very much a local hire. They will pay for moving expenses, but may not pay for relocation assistance otherwise and may not pay for international school. But never say never - and negotiate for everything you want.

The federal universities, ETHZ and EPFl (did I get that right) might have more flexible provisions.

In general, many things are better than US academia in terms of resources.

Are your positions permanent or would you be visiting for several years.

We moved here from the US in 2007, and generally speaking, we're happy about the choice. However, it can be an enormous creaky slow bureaucracy.
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You folks are hilarious. Not sure if you are trying to be...but you are.
Thanks for all of the input, folks. I am reading, learning, and laughing.
And for the record, we only bake our chickens.
Glad some of us served as entertainment at least. Won't bother to provide more.
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Stop arguing, kids and let's help the OP. Granted, she hasn't given us much info to work with, but we can assume they are moving to a city, rather than the countryside because of the university.

Daily life? You will most likely live in an apartment, rather than a single-family home. You will have neighbors who expect you to be very, very quiet in the evenings and on the week-ends when you are home. You will come to appreciate this.

You most likely are going to have to arrange for a child-minder for the 6-year-old during lunch-time and possibly for after school and on Wednesday afternoons, unless you can coerce your 13-year-old into taking on this responsibility. Your teenager is going to be reluctant to do this because he/she will be with their buddies at the local Coop or Migros at lunch buying completely inappropriate lunch items like Red Bull and a Mars bar.



Once you discover this and go ahead and hire a child-minder, you should make arrangements for this person to also do some grocery shopping during the day for you so that there will be food at home for you to cook when you arrive home at dinner-time. The grocery stores close relatively early here and they are not open at all on Sunday.

The 6-year-old will become relatively fluent in the local language in one or two years. After that, all of the rest of you will look to him/her to be the family interpreter.

I could go on for another 438 paragraphs, but I will stop and let you absorb this.
Or... it could be totally different...
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Depends where you are. Our local village Coop on the edge of Zurich city is open until 8pm. Ditto Migros and Denner. There are Coop Prontos, and Migros type places dotted around town that are open on Sundays and stay open until late. Maybe not a huge selection but you can buy enough things to cook a meal.

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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Out in the sticks here, I have the choice of shopping on Sunday morning at at least 5 places, 1 x 1km away, 1 x down the valley 5 mins away at a supermarket attached to a petrol station, open till late everyday too, 1 at supermaket attached to railway station, and 1 x at French supermaket 10 mins away, and 1 x at larger French supermarket 15 mins away. Plenty I'd say.
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Weird, as I'm pretty sure UNIL in Vaud delivers B permits to foreign professors?!
Neuchâtel delivers C permits to foreign professors and their spouses/children unless the spouse is EU in which case they, bizarrely, get a B. I thought it was a universal policy in Swiss universities. ( a way of getting around the non EU hiring rules I imagine)
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

Hey all, just a quick thanks for some of the advice given here though I'm not the OP. As I am expecting very soon and having learned this week our nearest Primary School has some of the scheduling mentioned here, I am now paying Attention to this type of stuff.

So helpful to me - though I'm still a few years out. Thanks!
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Re: Working parents with kids in CH

While you are sitting around twiddling your thumbs , you could put on your rubber boots and wade through some of the threads in this section. Some information here will now be out of date, but might help you to find the present situation.
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