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Modern sofa shops in around Zug, Zurich, Lucerne? Please recommend.

Morning all.
We need a leather sofa.
So far we've visited:
Ikea Rothenburg, Interio, Conforama, Pfister all in Emmenbrucke.
Pfister is expencive but nothing special for our taste.
Wohnhalle in Baar. We liked many models in this shop - best for us.
The bad news is we need to wait 8 weeks for a sofa, hence search continues elsewhere hoping for a display model to take home on the day.
Modern sofa shops in around Zug, Zurich, Lucerne? Please recommend.
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Re: Modern sofa shops in around Zug, Zurich, Lucerne? Please recommend.

In Baar try Otto's and while you are there, there is also another shop in the same building (i cant remember the name, but its expensive).

So in one trip you can see sofa's at two different ends of the price spectrum.


Also try the shop above Coop Bau und Hobby in Cham, they sell sofa's.


Regarding availability, its pot luck really. But i know for Ottos, it is best to get there early as they normally only have 1 or 2 of each item in stock.

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The bad news is we need to wait 8 weeks for a sofa, hence search continues elsewhere hoping for a display model to take home on the day.
Modern sofa shops in around Zug, Zurich, Lucerne? Please recommend.


Even my most conservative Swiss friend told me yesterday that he buys everything in Switzerland and happily pays a bit more to support local shops... except of furniture, cause the delivery charges alone are absurd in Switzerland. Most buy just across the border in places like Waldshut or Konstanz. All shops there deliver to Switzerland and take care of the customs. The two months will be the same there, but they got some large displays and always something on offer.


My favourites:
1. Medium price range: http://www.moebel-dick.de/
2. High end: www.seipp.de
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Even my most conservative Swiss friend told me yesterday that he buys everything in Switzerland and happily pays a bit more to support local shops... except of furniture, cause the delivery charges alone are absurd in Switzerland. Most buy just across the border in places like Waldshut or Konstanz. All shops there deliver to Switzerland and take care of the customs. The two months will be the same there, but they got some large displays and always something on offer.


My favourites:
1. Medium price range: http://www.moebel-dick.de/
2. High end: www.seipp.de
If they were easily accessible by (within walking distance of) public transport and showed their CHF prices (including delivery) online, it would be even better.
Otherwise, the carless will always have to go through quite a hassle to get what they want.
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Re: Modern sofa shops in around Zug, Zurich, Lucerne? Please recommend.

If not visited yet;

Möbel Gallati AG  
Sihlbruggstrasse 154, 6340 Baar

Teo Jakob AG  
Sihlbruggstrasse 114, 6340 Baar

Möbel Egger AG
Luzernstrasse 101, 6274 Eschenbach

Diga Möbel AG  
Hasliring 20, 6032 Emmen

Beliani GmbH  
Lindenstrasse 16, 6340 Baar
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You might get lucky at http://www.designermoebelboerse.ch/
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And for the cheaper taste: Toptip
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If they were easily accessible by (within walking distance of) public transport and showed their CHF prices (including delivery) online, it would be even better.
Otherwise, the carless will always have to go through quite a hassle to get what they want.
We are talking about furniture shops here. They tend to need a lot of space and therefore are usually located not on the high street with easy bus access. Unless you are looking for IKEA or other discount stores will no shop ever scare customers away by putting prices first, that's not how you sell stuff. The delivery is usually so cheap from Germany that you can ignore it. Unlike in Switzerland where many furniture shops will charge you 50 CHF an hour for the delivery time and then some 75 CHF per hour (per person, obviously) for the set up and god knows how much for the disposal of your old sofa... do German shops either include it completely in the price or charge some 50 EUR flat fee. That's at least my experience.


Yes, if you shop across the border will you have to read price tags in EUR. Is that really an issue for you in exchange of a >30% saving?
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Re: Modern sofa shops in around Zug, Zurich, Lucerne? Please recommend.

Unless you're sixty years old, avoid Diga. The quality of their furniture is second to none, but the style... well, the less said, the better.
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Unless you're sixty years old, avoid Diga. The quality of their furniture is second to none, but the style... well, the less said, the better.
Is that where you got yours from?

I thought you'd borrowed a time machine and travelled back to 1983. To be honest I was hoping you could have popped back and loaded up on Spangles and Aztec's.
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there is also a "Micasa" at Zugerland shopping Center (Steinhausen)

but I do not know their target audience :/
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but I do not know their target audience :/
Ignorant about quality and clueless about prices outside of the Migros group.
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there is also a "Micasa" at Zugerland shopping Center (Steinhausen)

but I do not know their target audience :/
It is a shop - in Switzerland.
The target audience is definitely the Chinese.
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Unless you're sixty years old, avoid Diga. The quality of their furniture is second to none, but the style... well, the less said, the better.


DIGA is actually really hit or miss! I agree both the webpage and the marketing are to run away from but (yes there is a but) it is always worth walking into a shop: the quality of the furniture is great and most of the people working there are trained carpenter so they really know a great deal about wood.


I agree it might not be my first choice for a couch but I bought my tables/chairs, side board, high board and tv furniture there. All of it was with nice discounts so good quality for a good price. But yes, sometimes you will be done within 5 minutes because they really have some awful stuff as well J
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or if you want to scrape the bottom of the barrel then Conforama
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We are talking about furniture shops here. They tend to need a lot of space and therefore are usually located not on the high street with easy bus access. Unless you are looking for IKEA or other discount stores will no shop ever scare customers away by putting prices first, that's not how you sell stuff. The delivery is usually so cheap from Germany that you can ignore it. Unlike in Switzerland where many furniture shops will charge you 50 CHF an hour for the delivery time and then some 75 CHF per hour (per person, obviously) for the set up and god knows how much for the disposal of your old sofa... do German shops either include it completely in the price or charge some 50 EUR flat fee. That's at least my experience.


Yes, if you shop across the border will you have to read price tags in EUR. Is that really an issue for you in exchange of a >30% saving?

Reading the prices isn't a problem in EUR when in the shop and able to ask for delivery prices on the spot,
but when online, it would be nice to see how much delivery costs right away. If delivery is cheap enough there is no reason not to put the prices online and save the potential customer the email/phone convo re: delivery prices, since they won't scare people away.

Also, the stores might need space, but public transport to the very close vicinity of the store is important as there will always be people who don't have cars or people who can drive them, can't walk long distances etc.


Möbel Dick has a bus station with buses to Waldshut very close by (150m distance),
Möbelmarkt Dogern is 1.4km away from Dogern train station.
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I've just looked at Möbel Dick and although I'm impressed by their collection, there prices are comparable to Swiss prices.


I, too, have been in Möbel Diga and found some really lovely stuff in there.


Personally, I'd rather support a shop in Switzerland. It just doesn't seem right to earn my money here and spend it in another country.
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Nobody in his right mind goes furniture shopping by bus. It does not matter if there is a bus stop within 150m from Moebel Dick. What matters is that most people plan a day of furniture shopping and want to go to a list of shops during a day. Relying on public transport in rural Germany on a Saturday for that is a waste. Even if you don't own a car is this one of the few occasions a year where it makes sense to rent one.


And I am sorry to be so outright, but have you ever bought something somewhere else than IKEA? The furniture shop has no interest to put every price online, but wants shoppers to come and have a look at stuff. Then you can ideally talk customers into some upsell options. Throwing in the delivery for cheap is a discount strategy to close a deal, not something you put up-front so customers take it as granted. Delivery costs depend on the size and weight of the stuff you buy - what exactly do you want to see on the website? A pre calculated fixed price for every item delivered to YOUR home by distance and of course in your currency calculated on the daily rate automatically? How about we throw in some real-time estimates by when the items ships from the individual factories? These guys are in the business of selling sofas, not making IT systems.
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I bought a (rather expensive) dinner table by "Team 7" there some months ago and compared the prices for this individual piece: with the tax savings (you have to deduct German VAT from the given prices and add the Swiss one...), full service delivery and installation did I save around 35% compared to the Swiss offers.
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Nobody in his right mind goes furniture shopping by bus. It does not matter if there is a bus stop within 150m from Moebel Dick. What matters is that most people plan a day of furniture shopping and want to go to a list of shops during a day. Relying on public transport in rural Germany on a Saturday for that is a waste. Even if you don't own a car is this one of the few occasions a year where it makes sense to rent one.


And I am sorry to be so outright, but have you ever bought something somewhere else than IKEA? The furniture shop has no interest to put every price online, but wants shoppers to come and have a look at stuff. Then you can ideally talk customers into some upsell options. Throwing in the delivery for cheap is a discount strategy to close a deal, not something you put up-front so customers take it as granted. Delivery costs depend on the size and weight of the stuff you buy - what exactly do you want to see on the website? A pre calculated fixed price for every item delivered to YOUR home by distance and of course in your currency calculated on the daily rate automatically? How about we throw in some real-time estimates by when the items ships from the individual factories? These guys are in the business of selling sofas, not making IT systems.
Not everyone has a drivers' license or friends with cars who have the time to drive them places.
Where I buy my furniture is beside the point.

Your post comes across as rather condescending.
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