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Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

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We are renovating our kitchen and for the combi-steam oven and combo-microwave oven we have received offer with 3 different brands - Electrolux, VZug and Bosch.
--From style, looks and compatibility with overall kitchen, I like Bosch but everybody in Switzerland prefers Vzug.
-- Does anybody has experience with Bosch? It seems that in UK , germany etc everybody goes for Bosch but not in Switzerland. Any thoughts why ? is it quality, lifetime support or in general swiss nature of vzug

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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

We have a VZug steamer - not. Combi one. A woman from the company came and cooked us a meal in it to show us how it works. Obviously we paid too much.

Other than making perfect rice, we don't use it much. It's also messy to mop out after use...
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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

Am guessing by now you've already made your purchase. In case not - folks buy v-zug because they're supporting their Swiss company. And the quality is admittedly darn good.

I've had a mix of Miele and Bosch ovens over the years, and now 2 lots of VZug (former apartment and current house). I love the VZug ovens best for functionality and precision temperatures for baking. Ours also has a rotisserie function - don't know how I lived without it!

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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

Thanks for the feedback. It was indeed a hard decision to make espec when you find that after paying the base selling price for house/ apartment how the cost is mounting much beyond. Almost makes you question what the hell was included in the base package 😀!!
After visiting Bosch and vzug retail shops and seeing the demo of both..luckily there was no doubt that vzug is worth the price. Ultimately we locked in vzug for kitchen appliances.
Now next decision to be made on washing machine and dryer - Miele or vzug?? Any thoughts?
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I love the VZug ovens best for functionality and precision temperatures for baking. Ours also has a rotisserie function - don't know how I lived without it!

Good luck!
I hate VZUG ovens most because they are so small.

We have got Siemens ovens - 67L capacity. A comparable V-Zug (60cm) one is 52L.

Not everyone in Switzerland prefers VZUG.

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I hate VZUG ovens most because they are so small.

We got Siemens ovens - 67L capacity. A comparable V-Zug (60cm) one is 52L.

Not everyone in Switzerland prefers VZUG.

Is the Siemens the same fitting dimensions as the V-Zug?

I have V-Zug. Will just handle a 13kg Turkey.
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Is the Siemens the same fitting dimensions as the V-Zug?
Yes, 60cm x 60cm.

(otherwise it would have been a silly comparison)


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I have V-Zug. Will just handle a 13kg Turkey.
I'm sure it will. How often do you have Turkey?
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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

We went for Electrolux for everything except the Bora hob.

The fridge has an ultra-cool section (1c) for fruit and veg. It kept Migros Strawberries fresh for a full week
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Yes, 60cm x 60cm.

(otherwise it would have been a silly comparison)




I'm sure it will. How often do you have Turkey?
Silly comparisons, on EF? Never!

Not as often as some people wish.

The Turkeyfile is having a new apt built and she told me that she wants to break the 13kg barrier. This is not a woman that does things by halves. If I suggested installing enough quartz heaters in the guest bathroom that she could roast an Emu she would immediately be on the line to the electrician.
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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

Siemens have cool exploded drawings on their website so you can order any replacement bits you may need easily.
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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

The reason why V-Zug ovens (60cm) are so stupidly small is that they have the same internal dimensions as the Swiss 55cm standard.
They're the same oven but one has a wider fascia.
(I had to look).

So you may call that 'Swiss Quality' but I call it sloppy, lazy, cost-saving 'design' that really has no place in a 3500 CHF (RRP) oven.
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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

We have Siemens appliances in the Swiss specs (55 cm) and they are made by V Zug. Look at the features of what you are buying, not the label.


I would visit the Electrolux Kitchen Centre before buying any further appliances.
http://www.electrolux.ch/electrolux_...kunden_center/


Now for the washer/dryer question.


The best washer/dryer I ever had were made by Merker. The landlord wanted to impress me and had those installed. Super machines.
http://www.merker.ch/de/


Since then I have owned Miele and they are decent machines.
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We have a VZug steamer - not. Combi one. A woman from the company came and cooked us a meal in it to show us how it works. Obviously we paid too much.

Other than making perfect rice, we don't use it much. It's also messy to mop out after use...

AbFab,

I got the steamer thinking of it as a "vegetable oven" for when I am making large meals.

It is worth going through the book and trying out the various recipes. I use mine about 20% of the meals that I prepare.
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Re: Kitchen combi-steam oven and combi-microwave-oven

The capacity entirely depends on which model you go for ..I have vzug combiair SE60 with 68L capacity, which is good enough. Siemens could haven other option but I found Bosch more stylish from its look.
Both Bosch and Siemens come from one company hence no difference in features.
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Both Bosch and Siemens come from one company hence no difference in features.
Not always true though.

It's all quite confusing. For example, Gaggenau is part of the BSH groups (Bosch Siemens etc) but some of their fridges are made in the same factory as Miele fridges.

Although this is a UK site for spare parts, this page has useful information on the origins of most manufacturers and the costs of their spares.
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Now next decision to be made on washing machine and dryer - Miele or vzug?? Any thoughts?
Definitely Miele. In the two apartments we have lived in the tumble dryer and washing machine have had to have technicians fix them or replace them. My favourite quote from a technician, "It's 8 years old now, there's no point fixing it. You can throw it away."
Our current washing machine intermittently switches itself on with the door open! (Which is fun!)
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