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Assistance in getting the baby to breastfeed. In case of post birth complications (baby and mother). Receiving hospital care makes it easier for the mother to recover from the birth.
we've had three kids here and the swiss system of keeping you in hospital - which is to generate money for them in reality - really gets on your nerves. we demanded to leave for the second two after staying there a day. Unless there is a complication then there really is no need. Unfortunately because its all based on money here they want to keep you in.

In the UK getting the person out if there are no complications frees up the bed for another person which means we can serve more of the population without the cotton wool being on. If there are complications then UK care will be as good or better in many cases than here as the surgeons have more experience.
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Old 13.06.2016, 13:07
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Re: NHS question

I'll post this again since you seem to have missed it the first time.

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNH...m-the-eea.aspx

There's a lot to read in all the linked documents but all the relevant info for you is there.
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Old 13.06.2016, 13:11
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we've had three kids here and the swiss system of keeping you in hospital - which is to generate money for them in reality - really gets on your nerves. we demanded to leave for the second two after staying there a day. Unless there is a complication then there really is no need. Unfortunately because its all based on money here they want to keep you in.

In the UK getting the person out if there are no complications frees up the bed for another person which means we can serve more of the population without the cotton wool being on. If there are complications then UK care will be as good or better in many cases than here as the surgeons have more experience.
You can leave earlier is you wish, they can't force you to stay. By and large, there's a far smaller demand on beds here which gives you the luxury of choosing how long you stay. In the UK, you just don't have that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/mot...ost-birth.html
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Old 13.06.2016, 13:16
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Re: NHS question

Good grief! Give a guy a break.

He only asked what would happen if he moved back to UK with his girlfriend and baby. He's not suggested anything underhand.

I know this is EF, but how do you lot manage to get upset at something which is probably pretty common.
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Still, the fact remains that this is not transferable so the fact that you have paid in all your life does not help your wife/partner in any way
Yes it is fact just an irrelevant one...if my question was "how can i exploit the NHS by transferring my NHS Points to my foreign girlfriend?" then it would be a very relevant answer

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I'll post this again since you seem to have missed it the first time.

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNH...m-the-eea.aspx

There's a lot to read in all the linked documents but all the relevant info for you is there.


Thanks I shall have a read

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Re: NHS question

Yep you can use the NHS as UK residents, before or after birth, you just need to register that you are residing in the UK.

Not sure what the fuss is here, the NHS is excellent, I have had more bad experiences with doctors in Switzerland, however we had our baby here at the University Hospital and they were fantastic. I am sure the NHS is mostly very good too, I was born into it and I survived. Good luck, enjoy your sleep while you can
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Old 13.06.2016, 15:58
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... The longer the woman stays in hospital, the more they can charge the insurance companies.
The more chance of MRSA...

After the first birth (complications) my wife went home after three days. After the second (straightforward), she got two weeks in a maternity hospital. Very nice it was too. For the last, baby was born about 3pm. They came home the following morning.
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Old 13.06.2016, 17:30
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Hey guys & Girls, hope your all well.


Been living here since last August, have a good flat and a permenant Job and have been together with my Swiss girlfriend for nearly two years now.


Problem is I am really missing home but we recently found out my girlfriend is pregnant which is fantastic news for us....but obviously it now complicates things.


She has said before that she would be happy coming back to the UK with me as she is very close to my Family, I just wanted to know whether anybody knew how it worked with the NHS in regards to the Baby?


I think she would like to have the Baby here with her doctor which I completely understand but if we were to head back home after I don't know how our health care System works in regards to the new Baby and also my girlfriend when we are not married...have looked online but I can only find Information about visotors not People staying in the UK.


As always any help or experience is much appreciated


Hi


Congrats on the baby, first of all.


The NHS is a good thing - negative press notwithstanding and you get all the antenatal and post-natal care you need. If your girlfriend needed to stay, she would be able to.


A quick suggestion - after you read all the information in the link you were supplied with - have you tried contacting your old GP/Medical practice, explaining the situation and asking their advice? You may have to pay a consultation fee, but I doubt it would be much. And if it's a long-standing family doctor, you may just get a chat for free. I know I would.


Plus, if you're moving back to pretty much exactly where you moved from, it's likely you'd need to be back on their "books" anyway. It's worth asking, I reckon.


All the very best - and I second the suggestion about "banking" some sleep!


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Why do you need to stay in hospital so long after the birth? Is it to save on rent?

You obviously don't know how much strength and energy a birth requires and how weak a lot of women feel afterwards.


It's fine to go home a day or two after a birth if you can recover at peace in your own time but most women have not only themselves to look after but a newborn child also.
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Re: NHS question

The first thing she would need to do is register with a G.P. Then she will be given appointment with a nurse, who will ask relevant health questions and do necessary basic health checks, blood pressure etc.

It is the same for anyone, whether they are pregnant or not.

I suggest you register with a group Practice, i.e. more than one doctor & maybe one that has a female doctor.

Many Group Practice have an specialist centre for mother/babies, as part of their practice.

Any necessary referals to specialists/ hospitals go via the G.P. Can be a bit a lotto postcode, when you get the appointment for specialist, although i suspect pregnant woman/baby a bit different.

Normally getting appointment with a G.P. has to be done weeks in advance. Though many offer emergency same day 5 minute appointments as well as their being health drop in centres for same, but you usually have to wait hours for same. The normal G.P. appointment is ca 10 minutes. My GP once told me to book a double appointment as he was to carry out a minor procedure on me
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Yep you can use the NHS as UK residents, before or after birth, you just need to register that you are residing in the UK.

Not sure what the fuss is here, the NHS is excellent, I have had more bad experiences with doctors in Switzerland, however we had our baby here at the University Hospital and they were fantastic. I am sure the NHS is mostly very good too, I was born into it and I survived. Good luck, enjoy your sleep while you can
The UK has no means to register residency, you must have been in CH too long.
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The UK has no means to register residency, you must have been in CH too long.
I know several people who have been asked to prove normal residency when moving back to the UK. They as for things like a rental agreement which has been in effect for at least three months, mortgage statement etc.
Since the new guidelines were introduced recently all new patients are supposed to be checked for residency but in practice it rarely happens at the moment.
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Normally getting appointment with a G.P. has to be done weeks in advance. Though many offer emergency same day 5 minute appointments as well as their being health drop in centres for same, but you usually have to wait hours for same. The normal G.P. appointment is ca 10 minutes. My GP once told me to book a double appointment as he was to carry out a minor procedure on me
Thus confirming that the NHS is shit.
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Seem to be drifting off point here....I just wanted to know how the system works whether she would potentially be covered as we will have a child together or whether initially it would go through her swiss insurance.


So for someone to come along and think were heading back to the UK to somehow "exploit the system" is a bit of a joke considering I like most have contributed to that system my whole working life without ever taking something from it...


Alles klar?
Possibly the insurance of your Swiss girlfriend could answer your questions. And also tell you if it't possible to cover her and the baby on the Swiss health-insurance. After all - will your girlfriend work in England or on what bases will she get a permit to live in England?
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Possibly the insurance of your Swiss girlfriend could answer your questions. And also tell you if it't possible to cover her and the baby on the Swiss health-insurance. After all - will your girlfriend work in England or on what bases will she get a permit to live in England?
As a Swiss national she doesn't need a permit to live in England. England doesn't have a permit system at all for EEA nationals but the can apply for a registration certificate.

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As a Swiss national she doesn't need a permit to live in England. England doesn't have a permit system at all.
No, but doesn't she have to show she can support herself? Otherwise she can be asked to leave after 6 months. Isn't that the law?
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As a Swiss national she doesn't need a permit to live in England. England doesn't have a permit system at all for EEA nationals but the can apply for a registration certificate.
More here on that.

https://www.gov.uk/eea-registration-certificate

May be useful for something like the NHS - otherwise they may be around at some point asking her to fill in forms so they can bill her Swiss health insurance company.
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As a Swiss national she doesn't need a permit to live in England. England doesn't have a permit system at all for EEA nationals but the can apply for a registration certificate.
I don't?? I could just move there? I'm not sure that's correct

(PS you never told me if the photo-thingy worked)
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I don't?? I could just move there? I'm not sure that's correct

(PS you never told me if the photo-thingy worked)
Yes, you can.

"The European Economic Area (EEA)
The EEA includes EU countries and also Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway. It allows them to be part of the EU’s single market.

Switzerland is neither an EU nor EEA member but is part of the single market - this means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals."

https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea

You probably will need to show you can support yourself financially though, if it's going to be a permanent move.
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Old 14.06.2016, 17:25
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this means Swiss nationals have the same rights to live and work in the UK as other EEA nationals."
That's outrageous? The Brits should have some sort of poll about that.



Which won't change anything.
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