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OK, but if you want to learn German, why Switzerland rather than Germany... or do you want to learn Swiss German???
I'm with you on this. Hoch Deutsch is not something I hear often when I'm back home.
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My wife who is half Canadian from Ottawa/Hull thinks Switzerland is much better than Canada in all aspects. Every time I say something good about Canada, she contradicts me... Overall I think Switzerland is a better country to live in compared to Canada...
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Why do you think i am joking about what i said, I am dead serious, When we are born we dont have a choice of what native language we have, If i had a choice i would of picked a few langauges excluding english. if you really want to know it would be, Swedish, German, Ukrainian//Russian, polish, Italian.
here, I've got just the language for you - they make great beers, the climate is fantastic, people are nice, a resident visa is much easier than a B or C permit, and the language is just about as difficult to learn as German. you'll also meet fewer Canadians than you would in Switzerland.

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And please if there is soooo many jobs here where i dont have to speak german and can speak my native langauge please by all means send me links so i can get out there and work.
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I dont give a damn about my shitty english, yes i may be a native english speaker but i dont care about english, I hate the langauge and one of the main reason i moved to Switzerland is so i can learn German and get really good in the german langauge better than i am in english....... ( i love languages except english )
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My wife who is half Canadian from Ottawa/Hull thinks Switzerland is much better than Canada in all aspects. Every time I say something good about Canada, she contradicts me... Overall I think Switzerland is a better country to live in compared to Canada...
I do the same thing here in Canada... Switzerland is always better... Doesn't make the Canadians too happy most of the time.
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Re: Canada vs. Switzerland

Well, I am off to Canada in July. 18 months back in Switzerland was enough for me. I just don't gel with the mentality here, the general "can't do" attitude or the store opening hours in general (still everything is closed over lunch)
It may sound terrible for some, but the weekly stress at Migros or Coop at the checkout is getting too much, no one packs any groceries for you, the person behind you looking funny when packing slowly.. Parking in front of shops is virtually non existent, and the driving is shocking (Western part of Switzerland).

So, my decision is made..

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PS. I am Swiss born..
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apparently the Swiss are more fluent in English.
More fluent in English then who?? Canada? Montreal? or Lac Saint-Jean Qc.?? Most of Canada is English...
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Well, I am off to Canada in July. 18 months back in Switzerland was enough for me. I just don't gel with the mentality here, the general "can't do" attitude or the store opening hours in general (still everything is closed over lunch)
It may sound terrible for some, but the weekly stress at Migros or Coop at the checkout is getting too much, no one packs any groceries for you, the person behind you looking funny when packing slowly.. Parking in front of shops is virtually non existent, and the driving is shocking (Western part of Switzerland).
Not sure where you are moving to, but in Qc. and most part of Ont. they don,t pack the groceries for you anymore. And people look at you funny if you take too long to bag your stuff...

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Oh bugger..

Nah, going to Vancouver.. my posting was sort of tongue in cheek. But having been there many times before, I am looking forward to it.
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Yup, we are North East of Toronto, and the days of packed groceries are going fast, only the expensive grocery stores do it anymore. The drivers aren't any better than in Switzerland either.
Personally, I feel that both countries are pretty awesome, where you fit better at any given time in life is dependent on a lot of things. I have lived in Canada for 17 years, and we are moving to Switzerland this summer. For us it is the right time, only time will tell if it will be a permanent move. As a diplomat brat I am a bit of a gypsy, and so is my husband. Home is where we make our home at any given time.
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Absolutely.. Good luck with your move
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Well, I am off to Canada in July. 18 months back in Switzerland was enough for me. I just don't gel with the mentality here, the general "can't do" attitude or the store opening hours in general (still everything is closed over lunch)
It may sound terrible for some, but the weekly stress at Migros or Coop at the checkout is getting too much, no one packs any groceries for you, the person behind you looking funny when packing slowly.. Parking in front of shops is virtually non existent, and the driving is shocking (Western part of Switzerland).

So, my decision is made..

Cheers, MikeNZ

PS. I am Swiss born..
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Not sure where you are moving to, but in Qc. and most part of Ont. they don,t pack the groceries for you anymore. And people look at you funny if you take too long to bag your stuff...

News to me ! they did yesterday. HELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Yup, we are North East of Toronto, and the days of packed groceries are going fast, only the expensive grocery stores do it anymore. The drivers aren't any better than in Switzerland either.
Personally, I feel that both countries are pretty awesome, where you fit better at any given time in life is dependent on a lot of things. I have lived in Canada for 17 years, and we are moving to Switzerland this summer. For us it is the right time, only time will tell if it will be a permanent move. As a diplomat brat I am a bit of a gypsy, and so is my husband. Home is where we make our home at any given time.
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Re: Canada vs. Switzerland

Not me, my parents, lol. I am just a product of their gypsy life, and yeah, I don't really fit in here either, but then I don't really fit in anywhere, but manage to adapt anywhere.
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More fluent in English then who?? Canada? Montreal? or Lac Saint-Jean Qc.?? Most of Canada is English...
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Well, I am off to Canada in July. 18 months back in Switzerland was enough for me. I just don't gel with the mentality here, the general "can't do" attitude or the store opening hours in general (still everything is closed over lunch)
It may sound terrible for some, but the weekly stress at Migros or Coop at the checkout is getting too much, no one packs any groceries for you, the person behind you looking funny when packing slowly.. Parking in front of shops is virtually non existent, and the driving is shocking (Western part of Switzerland).

So, my decision is made..

Cheers, MikeNZ

PS. I am Swiss born..
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News to me ! they did yesterday. HELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
Where are you located? I'm in Eastern Ont. haven't got my groceries bagged for few yrs. Anywhere along the Seaway corridor all the way up to Ott. & Gatineau. I travel all the way to Mtl ,Qc. and Riv-Du-Loup with no luck having a teenager helping.
I do stop for cheap gaz up in Kemptville and there is ONE gaz station that will still gaz up and wash my windshield. I always tip the kids and always get that amazed look..i assumed other don't tip...

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The drivers aren't any better than in Switzerland either.
But there are at least plenty of reasonably sized parking spaces and stores don't nickel and dime you for parking.
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Where are you located? I'm in Eastern Ont. haven't got my groceries bagged for few yrs. Anywhere along the Seaway corridor all the way up to Ott. & Gatineau. I travel all the way to Mtl ,Qc. and Riv-Du-Loup with no luck having a teenager helping.
I do stop for cheap gaz up in Kemptville and there is ONE gaz station that will still gaz up and wash my windshield. I always tip the kids and always get that amazed look..i assumed other don't tip...

I am in ottawa,but I have nothing to do with our taxes
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Well, I am off to Canada in July. 18 months back in Switzerland was enough for me. I just don't gel with the mentality here, the general "can't do" attitude or the store opening hours in general (still everything is closed over lunch)
It may sound terrible for some, but the weekly stress at Migros or Coop at the checkout is getting too much, no one packs any groceries for you, the person behind you looking funny when packing slowly.. Parking in front of shops is virtually non existent, and the driving is shocking (Western part of Switzerland).

So, my decision is made..

Cheers, MikeNZ

PS. I am Swiss born..
We all have different personalities and thresholds for inconvenience. This seems to explain, in part at least, why there are such extremes in attitude towards Switzerland.

The things you mention, I also find a bit annoying -- particularly the one about checkout etiquette. But would they ever be so annoying that I would list them as reasons for being glad to move to another continent?

Some people allow themselves to get really wound up over these things, and some don't. Personally, I don't. Without wanting to sink into cliché, those words from the Serenity Prayer about accepting the things you can't change, changing the things you can, and having the wisdom to know the difference, are always worth pondering over.

I can understand someone wanting to move country if they are being regularly abused, or if the schools are no good, or the taxes are way too high, or there is no sunshine, or no employment, or too much pollution, or no countryside, or a very unstable government, huge crime rate, or numerous other "big" things.

But it seems a bit odd to me to think of someone not bagging up your items at the supermarket as being grounds for emigration.

The mentality here? There is a cultural difference to be sure, and a more rigid way of thinking -- but again, it depends how this is rationalised. You see that rigidity as "can't do", and blighting your life. I see it as simply a stronger rules-based culture, with all the benefits that come with that e.g. lower crime rate, reliable public transport, low levels of welfare abuse (and therefore lower taxes), a general feeling of trust in the national institutions. For me, these are more significant than someone glaring at me in the supermarket for not bagging my items quickly enough.

Much as I love the UK, I never feel totally at ease on public transport (if it turns up), and I didn't enjoy paying 40% income tax and spectating on the endless stream of public scandals and backbiting, plus the general filth and unhealthiness of London. Though admittedly, they do still help you pack your supermarket bags.

So it's all down to priorities and perspective.

I've heard good things about Canada, though I've not been -- good luck.
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