Last year was tryingto have a drink in Mata Hary, but was blatently refused to be serviced. When I asked why bartender said that cause I had french fries in my hands Needless to say I replied with american dignity, you know - f@#$k you too, middle finger got busy, but question remains -why? I want to go to Zh in two weeks again, want to be prepared,,,,

You will typically be refused service in bars if you bring your Happy Meal in with you.

Bars generally serve their own food and the bars patrons prefer the ambiance without picnic'ers.

I would have thought that this was obvious

It'll be the same this year, too. Isn't it obvious that you don't go into somewhere serving food and drink with food you bought somewhere else - likewise if you make sandwiches at home. Try taking a glass of beer into MacDonalds...

And that'll be the Mata Hari...

Mata Hari does not serve food

why would you possibly swear and be rude to someone who has just given you a perfectly reasonble answer to your question?
maybe this is why you didnt get anywhere?

tip for next time - reply "im sorry, didnt realise, i'll eat these quickly and shant do it again" 9 times out of 10 he'll say ok....

Great - no food - so why should they allow you to eat your fries there creating greasy mess, foul smells etc. Is it no possible to reserve some time when you don't have fries in your hand for visiting bars in Switzerland? Since you're not visiting for 2 weeks, it should be possible to plan some time in your schedule.

Also, a degree of politeness when dealing with bar and waiting staff is customary here. You may want to give your foul mouth and busy middle finger a rest too.

I see someone needs a "you're either with us or against us" refresher course

how about repsecting the local rules and customs with a little dignity -- and at the same time putting a better face on Americans -- it's because of people like you that we have such a reputation for being inconsiderate and rude

the mcdonalds in letzipark sells beer, perhaps OP can go there to have beer AND fries - problem solved!

not sure that its just local rules and customs that means its not polite to swear at people...

I did not dis any of local traditions, unless there is general rule in Zh - do not enter a bar with ff

groan at me all you like Byby -- but your childish and disrespectful behaviour will win you no favor -- you need not look beyond your own actions to see why -- if you can see that far.

I think it's a general rule the world over - unless ff means ****ing friend.

no - you "dissed" the worldwide tradition of being polite.......have you read your original post back to yourself, sounds like you are boasting about it too..

maybe this is why you didnt get anywhere

actually, went to another bar with the same ff and was gladly served

tip for next time - reply "im sorry, didnt realise, i'll eat these quickly and shant do it again" 9 times out of 10 he'll say ok....

Definitely will dothanks, cause did not know that till read your post

ff has 2 meanings - french fries or forefox

well why didnt you do it then.......

Reminds me of a time back in college - after a house party, a friend of mine brought his own bottle of beer into a pub and was drinking it openly.

Barman "I'm sorry, but we don't serve that beer here"
Friend "Thanks, that's why I brought my own"

Was just brilliant the way he said it - the barman had no response and just left him

You think if it would be FF he would deny him a service? Then next time I go to Mata Hari with my own coctail and let you guys know what developed

I find that being serviced while trying to have a drink is most distracting.

Perhaps you should desist from such activities until after you've finished your Pina Colada?