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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

I have to be honest here and say that after 16 years in the Deutschschweiz, I was of the opinion they were sometimes a bit "bünzlig".
A bit stiff and reserved.

Now, after visiting the French part a few times, I have to say that I'm happy to live in the German part, as things run well here, are clean and well organised.
Perhaps I have become used to the order and I like it.

The French part of CH reminds me of Britain somehow....... No further comment necessary.
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

You see now how fascinating this little country this Now go and visit the Italian part a few times I enjoy the diversity !!!
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

I'm getting kind of tired of all this switzerland and swiss bashing going on. If you don't like it here for some reason, no-one is keeping you here so please just go. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I for one am really happy here in Zurich, I love the city, the lakeside, the shops, the nature and the mountains close by. I think the people are nice and friendly, just be realistic in your demands and expectations.
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I'm getting kind of tired of all this switzerland and swiss bashing going on. If you don't like it here for some reason, no-one is keeping you here so please just go. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I for one am really happy here in Zurich, I love the city, the lakeside, the shops, the nature and the mountains close by. I think the people are nice and friendly, just be realistic in your demands and expectations.
Ditto, agree 1000%. It's amazing how people think they are going to magically slot into the country and culture with minimal effort, as though they didn't quite realise that it wasn't the same as their home countries. Reality checks needed, methinks.
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I have to be honest here and say that after 16 years in the Deutschschweiz, I was of the opinion they were sometimes a bit "bünzlig".
A bit stiff and reserved.
We are.
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Now, after visiting the French part a few times, I have to say that I'm happy to live in the German part, as things run well here, are clean and well organised.
Perhaps I have become used to the order and I like it.

The French part of CH reminds me of Britain somehow....... No further comment necessary.
Agree, and this is where my theory comes into play:
You don't necessarily want the same qualities in people as country(wo)men and friends. I'd like the citizens of the country and city I live in to be hard-working, clean, law-abiding, organised, punctual, discreet, rational and unemotional. In short, Swiss. Now when it comes to my social circles I prefer humorous, extroverted, interesting, well travelled, spontaneous people. Swiss are.. just well travelled. Now this is a broad generalisation but as with many I think it's to a good degree true.
But I have no problem with it, as I don't care how witty the average Swiss or foreigner living in CH is, there are still so many great, intelligent and funny people in Zürich that I could never dream of meeting them all. I am just happy that the majority is relatively well-behaved and contributes to the functioning of this little country, so let them be bores.
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I grew up in Zurich and love it very much. Later on I spent some considerable years in Singapore, Los Angeles the UAE and London - and loved it as much. It really depends on yourself how YOU approach people in a country foreign to you. There's always 2 sides on a coin. And if it's too much - one can always leave to another place.
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Dear All - please give me your feedback on how do you as expats find Swiss Germans in daily life and in work life.
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esp if you can also give me some feedback on living in the French part vs the Swiss part. Thanks.
Oh, I find them much the same as the Scots English,
or French Spaniards, or even Norwegian Swedes.

So, yes, I think you'd be much happier in French Swiss
rather than Swiss Swiss. In fact, the French part of
French France is very French, and I can thoroughly
commend its Frenchness.

Just tell them "Mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles."
and you'll be taken for a native!
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Thanks. You mean not to expect major changes coming to the French part of Switzerland?
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Thanks. My question is more to do with trying to compare living in Zurich with life in the French part of Switzerland (Geneva, Lausanne, international ski resports areas). I heard that many people are moving to Switzerland now but all of them are going to the French part because lifestyle is better and it is easier to "integrate".
I am guessing that you're the type of person that, wherever they live, have terrible and intolerable neighbours?

Several things spring to mind:
  • I feel justified avoiding Brits (whinging poms, as they're known)
  • Life is what you make it
  • A cup can be half-full at the same time it's half-empty
  • Integration helps; a holier-than-thou attitude doesn't
  • If it all fails, colonise!

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I am guessing that you're the type of person that, wherever they live, have terrible and intolerable neighbours?
This is why I laugh at America-bashers. You step out of the room, they've moved on to the next victim (their neighbors, the next village over, some other country, ad nauseum).
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

What a wonderful Thread. OK I admit I am Swiss German, live in England but have family in Switzerland. I think you can find miserable people anywhere, this year my sister and I went on holiday to the Italien part, and found them really miserable, I think they hate the Swiss Germans, I am sure if we would have talked in English they would have been quite different. Last year I was sailing in the Baltic and found the Estonians and Latvians unfriendly, the Swedes cold, but loved the Danes and the Germans.
I have come to the conclusion that I like the English best, they have a great sense of humor, are broad minded and make good loyal friends.
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Yes in case of the Republic of Ireland, but clearly no in regard to England, Scotland and Wales which as the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" are simply ONE country only.
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Oooh... you don't want to go down this road, old chap...
Quite so, DB.
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One of my Swiss German friends moved to Lausanne to experience that great French "joie de vivre". He was quite disappointed. He thought that it was much more social and fun back home.
Lausanne possibly was a bad choice, as Lausanne is a French speaking city with an "Alemanique" mentality and ambiance. German speaking Berne is far more "Romand" than French speaking Lausanne. In the Vaud/Waadt my places are either Yverdon (at the Lac de Neuchâtel / Neuenburgersee) or Nyon, Coppet near to Geneva.
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What a wonderful Thread. OK I admit I am Swiss German, live in England but have family in Switzerland. I think you can find miserable people anywhere, this year my sister and I went on holiday to the Italien part, and found them really miserable, I think they hate the Swiss Germans, I am sure if we would have talked in English they would have been quite different. Last year I was sailing in the Baltic and found the Estonians and Latvians unfriendly, the Swedes cold, but loved the Danes and the Germans.
I have come to the conclusion that I like the English best, they have a great sense of humor, are broad minded and make good loyal friends.
Well the Ticinesi feel "domineered" by Zurigo. They however detest Swiss Germans who simply want to talk German. I still remember a military service in the Magadino. I arrived at that train station some 2 hours and 20 minutes too early at about 12.15, and so went to that nice restaurant right across the station. I ordered in Italian and spoke Italian and got an excellent meal and a nice service. When we had the customary "evening out" I convinced our corporal and some colleagues that this restaurant was good, whenever some of our folks had been handled there most coldly and unfriendly before, and when the corporal asked me about language aspects I told him that my Italian was abysmal and based on use on holidays. And he said "oh well, this is exactly my position --- let's share" and so we took our role as interpreters, the personnel never stopped to praise the "good" Italian of the "commander" and his assistant ! They helped us with our Italian all the way.

Whenever I am in the Ticino I am of course regarded as somebody from "farther south" and so am in a different position. But I see how things go on and for sure can say that the Ticinesi do not hate German Swiss. Sure, in restaurants in the Ticino you should approach the personnel in Italian. After that they will help you out with their knowledge of German all along.
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Lausanne possibly was a bad choice, as Lausanne is a French speaking city with an "Alemanique" mentality and ambiance. German speaking Berne is far more "Romand" than French speaking Lausanne. In the Vaud/Waadt my places are either Yverdon (at the Lac de Neuchâtel / Neuenburgersee) or Nyon, Coppet near to Geneva.
Yes absolutely. Even Swiss are victims of stereotypes.
That person came from Basel and I also think Basel is more fun and interesting than Lausanne.
Vaud has a lot to offer though.
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Yes absolutely. Even Swiss are victims of stereotypes.
That person came from Basel and I also think Basel is more fun and interesting than Lausanne.
Vaud has a lot to offer though.
Not last/least far better wines than Basel !
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Yes in case of the Republic of Ireland, but clearly no in regard to England, Scotland and Wales which as the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" are simply ONE country only.
Would that it were that simple...! But it is not.
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

Isn't it possible that the Swiss Germans are getting a bit of a bashing here? Sure they can be unfriendly but my, I have met nasty people in Lausanne and Fribourg too. Putting them into one pot is sort of silly isn't it? Get poor service in a restaurant? Well, leave. No one made you stay. Believe it or not, Swiss German isn't a culture, it's many different cultures just look at the difference between Appenzel and Berner Oberland! I'm not going to tell people to try to get to know the people before you shoot them, but it might help. Travel around the country, there might a Swiss German or two up a hill somplace you'll like.
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

I am not sure if this has been mentioned in a previous reply to this post but I think there is also a huge difference between People in Zurich and the rest of the 'Swiss Germans'
Zurich people are very much City attitude with a small town mentality and very stiff and sour and blah blah but I think if you go outside people are a little more chilled and friendlier. Even in Rapperswill people were so much happier and friendlier.
I suppose just like London or Paris..

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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

some of these post have made me think....

Isn't there a lot of foreigners who come here and complain about things?
From difficulties getting apartments to expensive shopping whilst not finding self-raising flour, sliced bread, brown sugar and so on?
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

God knows...
I've said a few choice words about some of the less lovely people in Alsace and Basel...

But it's not like I started ranting about people around me ONLY after I moved to Alsace...

Sometimes I forget how it goes...


Lord give me the wisdom to accept the things I cannot change...

And the patience to change the things I can...

And the wisdom to know the difference between the two...


Maybe if I tattoo it on my forehead, I'll remember it...
(but only if I look in the mirror often ; )

For future notice...

If I rant about anyone or anything...please keep it in mind that it has a lot more to do with my inability to deal with it right now...

And be kind...

I promise to pull my head out of my ass eventually ; )

And that also goes for ranting about people who are ranting...
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