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Old 15.08.2009, 13:47
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A problem that many swiss people have is they are very fast ashamed when they can not speak a foreign language well. If they know you speak English or in my case Spanish and they can speak a little bit of it, then it won't be very easy that they give the first step to talk with you unless they are 99% sure their English is as good as yours.
You practically describe my older brother. He was the one who refused to say one simple sentence to get an English-only talking aunt down from the throne to the eating-room, and so I "excelled" in my first English words which as I still remember after almost exactly 51 years "Gertrude, meal is ready you can come down". He on holidays knew Italian better than me and so instructed me on how to order the icecream and then stayed ways behind and I did the bla-bla. He was the C-I-C, and I always when in "foreign" areas was Mr Bla-Bla. But that way I acquired the ability to use a language of which I only know a few words. If local people do not like my slaughtering their language they are happily invited to talk German or English -- if they can !
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

They get things right - Basel must be one of the nicest cities to live in!
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Old 25.08.2009, 12:58
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The French part of CH reminds me of Britain somehow....... No further comment necessary.
Hmm! Yeah, I know what you mean, I never get home sick because the similarities are so amazing, the language, the crime (last year someone was caught shoplifting in Geneva) the scenery, i.e. Lac Le-man, just like Rutland waters. The Alps, just like the Chilterns. Montreux, just like Toxteth, Liverpool. Gruyeres, just like Newcastle. And we mustn't forget the North-South divide. Sorry, couldn't resist a further comment braincooked, you and I must be on the same drugs.
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Hmm! Yeah, I know what you mean, I never get home sick because the similarities are so amazing, the language, the crime (last year someone was caught shoplifting in Geneva) the scenery, i.e. Lac Le-man, just like Rutland waters. The Alps, just like the Chilterns. Montreux, just like Toxteth, Liverpool. Gruyeres, just like Newcastle. And we mustn't forget the North-South divide. Sorry, couldn't resist a further comment braincooked, you and I must be on the same drugs.
Yeah, Flighty, absolutely.

But seriously, the laissez-faire attitude, mucky toilets and general air of disorganisation really brought back memories of home.
You were right about the North/South divide though - that would be the Röstigraben.
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Old 25.08.2009, 14:19
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

No. Vienna then Zurich. Basel isn't on the list. http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/search/R...t&sid=10892465

And among Swiss cities, the informal poll on the above page says Zurich is best place to live by a country mile.

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Old 25.08.2009, 22:52
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

Swiss Germans ? love 'em so much I married one
Flower, I can only say that peace of heart is a question of what is going on in your life and doesn't have a lot to do with the canton.

If you are French, naturally you will feel inclined to prefer Suisse Romande but it has more to do with your culture than with the city you are living in. I loved Zurich very much and can not go there without a little sad feeling of nostalgia and many fond memories.
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
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Old 25.08.2009, 23:09
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
... but at least they can spell.
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Old 25.08.2009, 23:16
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
Now who's being xenophobic?
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Old 26.08.2009, 10:04
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
Fully agree. Try to not touch them, they're filthy and their corrupted morals will pass on to you.
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
Then get the **** out of Zurich, surely?
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
you're probably one of those expats contributing to the thought that Are expats arrogant barstewards?

It's a self-fulfilling prophesy; you think they're xenophobic and they will be...stingy and miserly - how do you know?! And ignorant? Why, because you want them to be.

And the self-fulfilling prophesy begins with your username on the forum, I'm sure. But - be like the Swiss and blame everyone else
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Old 26.08.2009, 12:22
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Yeah, Flighty, absolutely.

But seriously, the laissez-faire attitude, mucky toilets and general air of disorganisation really brought back memories of home.
You were right about the North/South divide though - that would be the Röstigraben.
Disorganisation, seems to conflict somehow with the fact that many of the worlds biggest organisations such as the Red Cross, U.N. World Health Organization, International Olympic Committee, U.C.I. etc etc are based here in Romandie. (Excuse my ignorance but I can't think of any up your end)
Nothing wrong with lezzer affairs! Toilets in general are very clean here, (no sh*t holes, like those in France) have you visited many? And don't blame the N.-S. divide on poor old Rustygraben. Sh!te, never thought that I'd jump to the defence of the French speaking Swiss, but we really shouldn't generalise (should we?) as we all know that there are good and bad everywhere.
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Re: What do you think of Swiss Germans?

I lived in Allschwil 1.5 years. The vast majority were politely friendly, helpful when you asked for something, happy to smalltalk, but perhaps a bit reserved. I got the feeling that if I learned Swiss German and was going to stay, I could _slowly_ be part of the place.

As everything else in Switzerland, it depends on where you go. I was told that estate agents warn foreigner against buying in certain places, as the locals will not talk to you the first 10 years.

One of my wife's colleagues is Welsh and Swiss married. When they lived in rural SO their children were told (by a teacher!) that they were not Swiss, as they were born in the US.

My worst experience was a woman on the train from Zurich Airport. She got upset about our son being too noisy and started an insulting rant about foreigners in general and us in particular (went on for 10-15 minutes). She was obviously bonkers, some other passengers phoned for the police to receive her and apologised profusely to us.
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.
Loving the irony here...

Does zenophobia have something to do with Buddhism?

EDIT: I have worked with Swiss Germans and my "family-in-law" is Swiss German, we also socialise with many Swiss and always enjoy their company. They seem to be a lot more informed and worldly wise than many of the friends I left behind in the UK. Maybe for some that is what they find boring - I actually prefer it to much of the vacuous chatter you get in a social environment in the UK.

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Disorganisation, seems to conflict somehow with the fact that many of the worlds biggest organisations such as the Red Cross, U.N. World Health Organization, International Olympic Committee, U.C.I. etc etc are based here in Romandie. (Excuse my ignorance but I can't think of any up your end)
Nothing wrong with lezzer affairs! Toilets in general are very clean here, (no sh*t holes, like those in France) have you visited many? And don't blame the N.-S. divide on poor old Rustygraben. Sh!te, never thought that I'd jump to the defence of the French speaking Swiss, but we really shouldn't generalise (should we?) as we all know that there are good and bad everywhere.
Wise words indeed from one who professes not to be. Don't be so harsh on yourself, Brighty.

PS : The toilets I have seen so far in the Romandie remind me JUST of those sh*t holes I've seen in France. Perhaps I've been to the wrong places, though.
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I dont work with Swiss Germans and neither do I socialise with them. They're a zenophobic, stingy, miserly and ignorant lot of human beings.

Although this does not, of course, apply to all Swiss Germans but to quite a number of them. Many only know how to render discriminative insults and prejudices best based on appearance (folks that are not Swiss in their view) and are not really interested in getting to know strangers. If this is the formula of the Suisse success story - it's just not worth it.
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Although this does not, of course, apply to all Swiss Germans but to quite a number of them. Many only know how to render discriminative insults and prejudices best based on appearance (folks that are not Swiss in their view) and are not really interested in getting to know strangers. If this is the formula of the Suisse success story - it's just not worth it.
Hopefully you communicate better with Swiss people than you do with English-speakers...
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Hopefully you communicate better with Swiss people than you do with English-speakers...
Did I upset you ? May be I am too truthful or just cheeky
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