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Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

Can anyone recommend where to buy antiques (or at least old and nice) furniture near Vaud (could over the border in France). The places I've visited - even the dusty old ones in the middle of nowhere - are astronomical. Really don't want to buy any more future landfill from Ikea...

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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

www.ricardo.ch is the best. buying things here in the EF is also a good source of unexpensive furniture. IKEA, Landfill? I think most of their stuff is made from recycled and recyclable goods. If then a council hasn't got a facility to do that I think it is not IKEA's fault.

However I would also buy old furniture as it hardly ever devalues. Place an add here of what is it you want and maybe someone has it and don't need it anymore.
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

There's the flea market, last Sunday of each month, in Nyon by the lake.

I tend to call it over-priced junk, but some people call it antiques. Maybe worth visiting if that's the kind of thing you are looking for.
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

You could try Rolle, there are a few antique shops there, but I couldn't tell you what the prices are like.
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There's the flea market, last Sunday of each month, in Nyon by the lake.

I tend to call it over-priced junk, but some people call it antiques. Maybe worth visiting if that's the kind of thing you are looking for.
There are some gems to be found in that flea market. Also, there's an antique dealer in the old part of town just by the lake who's been going out of business for the last couple of years. He's seems to be almost out of stock, but it's worth asking what he has tucked away. We got a couple of really nice pieces- small table and freaky looking leather chair- for great prices from him. Can't remember the name of his shop but it's about 20 meters down from the creperie on the same row.
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

I have found a few things on anibis.ch (look under mobilier - décoration) - good to be able to search by pictures to get a quick overview of what is there. Also got some decent dining chairs with wicker seats, in fine condition, for 10chf each from the saturday market on plainpalais in geneva. Loads of stalls there with lots of furniture and some quite reasonable prices.
WRS also has a lot of classifieds, tho quite a lot tends to be ikea. http://www.worldradio.ch/classifieds....php?a=5&b=221
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

This is what I do for a living, and have been doing for decades, on three continents. I'm going to give you some serious inside scoopage, so pay attention.

1. Le Landeron, near Neuchatel, is chock full of antique stores at very, very reasonable prices. You may have to climb over things and peek behind things, but you could furnish a house from the stuff in that one village.

2. Just north of Lausanne, near Crissier, is a store called Le Troc. Take the 18 bus to the end of the line at Timonet. Hike directly up the big hill to the 2-story commercial building on the right. There is a large billboard plastered on the side of the building that says Troc. The store takes up nearly all of the top floor of that building. It is jam-packed full of glorious goodies for pennies on the dollar.

3. Come to my house. I've got tons of fabulous things that I will sell you, especially lighting, flokhati rugs, paintings, posters and even a spare Edward Wormley for Dunbar sofa and a Grete Jalk coffee table.

4. Do like I do every weekend and go to a brocante faire. (The one in Nyon is crap. The one in Plainpalais in Geneva is good, especially on Saturday as opposed to Wednesday. The one in Villeneuve is crap. The one in Lyon on Sundays at the canal is orgasmic.) To find them, you go on the website www.vide-greniers.org. (This means "attic sales"). Halfway down the homepage is a picture of a map of France and Switzerland with little red and green dots on it. Click on the map. The map is covered with localities that are having sales, mostly on the weekends. Green dots are usually lower-end items--think garage sale stuff. The red dots are much higher-end things including alot of furniture.

Any more questions, just ask. Happy to help. I'm also for hire, in case you just want me to get the sh*t and decorate your house.
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

This thread is a bit dated; is the above information still current? Anybody have any additional advice? Is it worth it to cross the border into France?

I'm looking for some living/dining room furniture, in particular a buffet. I don't want to spend a fortune, in case I have to leave it behind when I move next. I also work full-time, so all shopping needs to be done on Saturday and I don't speak French (yet) which makes it difficult to book an appointment with the antique shop.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts
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This thread is a bit dated; is the above information still current? Anybody have any additional advice? Is it worth it to cross the border into France?
You need additional advice after the Spouse's excellent answer?
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This thread is a bit dated; is the above information still current?
You need additional advice after the Spouse's excellent answer?
To me it seems quite reasonable to ask if 4-year-old info is still valid.
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To me it seems quite reasonable to ask if 4-year-old info is still valid.

I didn't query that bit.
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This thread is a bit dated; is the above information still current? Anybody have any additional advice? Is it worth it to cross the border into France?

I'm looking for some living/dining room furniture, in particular a buffet. I don't want to spend a fortune, in case I have to leave it behind when I move next. I also work full-time, so all shopping needs to be done on Saturday and I don't speak French (yet) which makes it difficult to book an appointment with the antique shop.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts
One thing that was not mentioned in the excellent post of Thespouse is to look on Anibis.ch

It is the local (French Switzerland) Craig's list. You can find LOTS of antiques for very little money. You will want to use the keywords in French and you will want to try a few different ones as often there is more that one word to describe an object/type of furniture.
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

Wow, I sounded like a bit of an asshat in that post, sorry. I'll blame it on still being a relative noob.

Yes, some things have changed. The Troc in Crissier is now closed. The web site vide-greniers.org has been revamped so there is no little map in the middle of the page. You have to search by department and the Swiss cantons are found at the end of the list of all of the French departments. This is really the off-season, though, for brocante fairs. Things will pick back up in the spring.

I've since found an awesome antique mall in Geneva with great prices, here: http://www.antiquaires.ch/puces.html
It's actually in Chene Bourg on the same street as the Rolex building. There's also a small second-hand shop just past this large antique mall, 100 meters further down Rue Peillonnex on the same side of the street.

There are two Trocs on the French side of the lake, one in Ville-la-Grande and one in Thonon. Loads of 2nd hand furniture in their showrooms. Here are the links:
http://www.troc.com/fr/magasin-119-a...e-la-grand.htm
http://www.troc.com/fr/magasin-155-t...-sur-leman.htm
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Wow, I sounded like a bit of an asshat in that post, sorry. I'll blame it on still being a relative noob.
Aw. You never sound like an asshat and you didn't back then either.


Good advice on this thread that is still perfectly relevant. The only thing I would add is that for cheap furniture you want to avoid "antique" stores. They don't sell cheap stuff.

You can hit the second hand stores (salvation army near Place du Tunnel, or Renfile near the Blecherette exit/entrance to the highway, or ever better if Emmaus, but that's further away). You will find lots of beautiful pieces of older solid furniture as well as some not so great cheap "Ikea" style chip board pieces that will do in a pinch and you won't feel guilty trashing them when you are done with. I'm always surprised at the lovely things being sold for very little. You may have to hold out though for new stock to come in.

However, you may be better off buying from other expats that are leaving. Sometimes you can get a whole apartments for a song. Look at the market place here or the classified sections of glocals and WRS, or from locals who just want to get rid of stuff so they can buy new stuff on anibis or ricardo.

Lots of good things cheap available in Switzerland. In most cases you are going to have to sort out transportation for the items and that is aways the biggest hassle/hurdle!
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Wow, I sounded like a bit of an asshat in that post, sorry. I'll blame it on still being a relative noob.
I wasn't being sarcastic - your post was great.

And I knew that you'd get an email about the latest posts on the thread so if anything had changed, you could update your original advice.

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Aw. You never sound like an asshat and you didn't back then either.


Good advice on this thread that is still perfectly relevant. The only thing I would add is that for cheap furniture you want to avoid "antique" stores. They don't sell cheap stuff.

You can hit the second hand stores (salvation army near Place du Tunnel, or Renfile near the Blecherette exit/entrance to the highway, or ever better if Emmaus, but that's further away). You will find lots of beautiful pieces of older solid furniture as well as some not so great cheap "Ikea" style chip board pieces that will do in a pinch and you won't feel guilty trashing them when you are done with. I'm always surprised at the lovely things being sold for very little. You may have to hold out though for new stock to come in.

However, you may be better off buying from other expats that are leaving. Sometimes you can get a whole apartments for a song. Look at the market place here or the classified sections of glocals and WRS, or from locals who just want to get rid of stuff so they can buy new stuff on anibis or ricardo.

Lots of good things cheap available in Switzerland. In most cases you are going to have to sort out transportation for the items and that is aways the biggest hassle/hurdle!
I don't know much about antiques in Romadie, but over here in Zürich i would not say all antique shops are overpriced, but indeed some of them are, and some antique dealers will sadly try and talk you into believing something is an absolute bargain when it isn't, or pretend an item is an absolute rarity when in fact you can find them a dime a dozen on Ebay or Ricardo. So educate yourself, know prices, compare and use the Internet. If the dealer says you have to decide and buy now because it will be sold tomorrow, it's probably because he doesn't wnat you to find out the truth. If the dealer can't be honest, just stop frequenting that shop. Life's too short to waste negotiating with crooks. Also beware of fakes. Especially in terms of Indian and Chinese items there is a lot of modern low-value junk being passed off as antiques these days, sometimes incorporating recycled wood or bits of older furniture to appear genuine. If an offer appear too good to be true, it probably is. Again, educate yourself and learn how to recognise the real thing. The fakes often have tell tale signs such as shoddy workmanship, poor materials and botched repairs where the old and new are fitted together.

I actually have such a Chinese cabinet. It's an obvious fake but its cute and the price was fair so I bought it. But I have seen similar items in other shops at far higher prices.

The last couple of years have also seen a spate of Asian made reproduction funnel grammophones filling our antique shops and pretending to be the real thing. Their sound quality is awful and they will ultimately destroy your records. They attempt to appear genuine by incorpoarting genuine components from trashed equipment. The people selling these are either very naive or complete crooks. Consider them a warning sign and treat anything else in that shop accordingly. Or if in doubt, avoid those shops entirely.

On the postive side, I've found some pretty good deals on furniture and smaller items at flea markets, at the Salvation Army brocki, and also in average junk brockies.
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I don't know much about antiques in Romadie, but over here in Zürich i would not say all antique shops are overpriced, ....
I never said antiques were "overpriced". I just said they are not really where one would find "cheap" furniture. For "cheap" furniture, best to look elsewhere.

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And this is exactly my point.
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You need additional advice after the Spouse's excellent answer?
Additional in the sense that her original advice was pretty good, but in four years she or others may have come up with new ideas for places to look. Sure enough Verbier suggested anibis.ch which I am familiar with as a Craigslist-like source of secondhand goods, but wouldn't have checked for something like antique furniture.

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Good advice on this thread that is still perfectly relevant. The only thing I would add is that for cheap furniture you want to avoid "antique" stores. They don't sell cheap stuff.
The thing is, like the OP, I'm not really looking for cheap furniture. For better or worse, I'm here indefinitely, and so I'd like to own some good pieces. But I'm not about to spend CHF 4K on a Louis XVI coffee table .

Part of this newfound interest in antiquing is that I've become so used to moving every couple of years from one job to the next, that I'm experiencing a bit of "culture shock" from the idea of a permanent contract and residence. (More so than from the move to Switzerland, I think.) For me, changing my home environment from 'disposable' Ikea to furnishings which have already lasted a number of years is a way to psychologically transition myself between the idea of home as 'the place where I currently reside' and that of home as 'where I continue to live'.

That being said, if the company ever decides to move me, the first things to get sold are the big, heavy pieces of furniture (like the aforementioned buffet).
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Re: Avoiding Ikea, Finding Antiques. Near Vaud

Somewhere else that might be of some use is Emmaüs. It's more of a charity shop / upcycling centre than an antique dealer but probably no different to a broquante or vide grenier. Please be aware that I've seen the sign for the place in Etagnière (north of Lausanne) and then Googled them, I haven't actually been in the shop..

http://www.emmauslausanne.ch/magasin-emmaus

http://www.emmaus-schweiz.ch/
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Have you looked on the WRS website they have a classified section, or Petite annonces.ch
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