And the next. In Bangkok we must drink bottled water - tap water is not safe and clean. In order that our daughter's teeth stay cavity free we give her fluoride tablets. Do I need to bring them to Zug with me or is the water fluoride treated? I am aware of the many arguments for and against mass fluoridation but we choose to give them to her.
Many thanks in advance for your help.

AFAIK the only place where they used to add fluoride to the water was Basel. Because they started selling drinking water to the French two years ago, they had to stop that (the French wouldn't buy water that contained Fluoride because of its mild toxicity). So no, water won't contain fluoride in Zug.

Why not just give your daughter a toothpaste that contains fluoride? There's one from Elmex that is used once a week or so. I don't think you'll even be able to get fluoride pills here as they're considered poisonous and dangerous, especially to children.

Thanks for the reply, she does use a fluoride toothpaste, but the dentist here recommended supplementing it with .25mcg of fluoride. It has become routine now to take a 'crocodile teeth sweety' after toothbrushing. When we lived in Oman the paediatrician we used advised us to use fluoride drops, we'll carry on until her milk teeth fall out as the tabs strengthen the second teeth. She hasn't actually lost any teeth yet and is getting rather cross about it as she is 6 on Saturday and the only one in her class not to have done!

So far I remember, German kids are taking fluoride tablets pretty much since they are born, too.

Elmex isn't your average fluoride-enriched toothpaste, it's a very rich on fluoride preparate and the recommended usage is once a week.

Both German and Swiss kids normally don't take fluoride pills.

Edit: Forgot something important! Salt usually is fluoride enriched, it's declared on the packing.

Ah, very useful to know this - we're having trouble getting our daughter to spit the toothpaste out after brushing (we told her off for spitting in the street) and we were worried about overdosing her (not like a toxic overdose, I meant just making her teeth go brown).

I am not sure about other parts of Germany, but when in Hessen our paediatrician prescribed fluoride plus vitamin D tablets for both my kids from the time the first teeth came through. D -Fluoretten made by Aventis.

It is not recommended to use a toothpaste with fluoride and take the tablets so we used Weleda kinderzahngel.

Since we moved I have continued to get both the tablets and toothpaste here in Zurich with no problems....

I would much rather do it this way as at least I know what dose of fluoride they are receiving rather than trying to convince a 1 year old to spit out the toothpaste after brushing...

Fluoride is the last thing you want to give your children.

Did you know that fluoride was first administered by Nazi's on concentration camp prisoners as it made the inmates sterile, docile, stupid and obedient?

Do a google search for fluoride dangers and see for your self. There have been huge campaigns to remove it from our drinking water that I've supported over the years.

There is absolutely no evidence that fluoride benefits children's teeth in any way - actually it damages the bones.

The Nazi's have infilitrated another thread... make it stop!

I was an Au-pair in Munich (Bayern), and all three kids I was watching were taking fluoride tablets.
I know it can be dangerous if in high dose, that is why we hide our toothpaste from our baby. But I am sure the little dose in tablets that pedi recommends, is not causing any harm. As a matter of fact we were told not to drink bottled water "exclusively" because it doesn't contain any fluoride.

This is a good page about fluoride, please read before you consider giving your children fluoride:


Fluoride Accumulates in Pineal Gland - Health Supreme

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[Fluoride] has a tendency to accumulate not only in developing teeth causing discoloration, and in bones making them brittle. The mineral is associated with cancer and it also accumulates in the pineal gland, an important hormone control center, where it wreaks considerable havoc.
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thought this link would help : British Dental Health Foundation

Hmm, my mum took fluoride while she was pregnant but that was the last I heard of it. I had no cavities until I was an adult so I guess it worked. And I certainly don't think I'm docile and obedient.

Sorry, while I respect your point of view, our daughter who has been taking fluoride supplements since about 6 months of age, has defineitely never shown any signs of being docile or submissive or even obedient! Thanks for the input though.

suppose you got that from this conspiracy website .... quick get your ADFB on .... Fluoride

This is a little late but for anyone who is listening, I wouldn't put any fluoride products near any of my children.
The only reason for putting fluoride in drinking water is to reduce cavities but the evidence show that it has no effect....
So why would you want to put a know poison into your young developing child ???
The best thing you can do to make sure your child has good teeth is to give them a good healthy unprocessed diet.
Please do a little more research
Here are a few links to start you off

Has Fluoride been tested http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-testing.htm
Study of decrease in IQ http://www.fluoridealert.org/iq-studies.aspx
Basel Switzerland Halts Fluoridation: http://www.fluoridealert.org/Alert/I...oridation.aspx

This reminds me of those anti-vaccination folks. You do something that basically wipes out (or significantly suppresses) an original problem and eventually, over time, a group of people, who were raised with things like vaccines and flouridated water, and don't know anything about illness, disease, and various other horrors. This group really has no visceral understanding of what things like vaccines and flouridated water fixed. Eventually, they somehow decide that the current disease- and cavity-free society doesn't really need the original solutions because the original solutions were somehow not necessary! For example, anti-vaccination person doesn't vaccinate their child and says 'Look how healthy he is!" while ignoring the fact that their child lives in a relatively disease-free environment because every other child around them is vaccinated. Put this child in, say, Somalia and see how long little Johnny Nomeaslesshotforme lasts.

Don't even get me started on how all the medical journals are wrong but this one web site on the internet that confirms my bias is completely correct (even though their 'results', such as they aren't, aren't reproducible).

I had floride put on my teeth 3 time aged 13, 15 & at 47, 2 years ago in Basel. I have never had a filling & nor had a balanced healthy diet.

You must be the statistical anomaly that proves that Fluorine doesn't actually work.

Dentists sometimes put Fluoride on your teeth after cleaning them.

I dont beleive in all these additives. Have a healthy diet, not too much soda/coke/sweets when you are a kid and clean your teeth regularly.

I'm 33, perfect teeth and no fillings.