..it might have something to do that asylum seekers aren't allowed to work in Switzerland.
well, thats ofc a problem aswell. but the people standing around claraplatz arent interested in normal jobs or to live here. im not generalizing over all asylum seekers, especially not to all nigerians. but those standing around there, they are recruited IN nigeria, they come here with professional help, they know not much can happen to them, exept beeing send back to nigeria.and they can earn a shitload of money just in one year.
i work nightshifts just close to claraplatz and i can follow the spectacle through the night. they are so well organized, maybe 25 people, 15 as "sales-man", and the rest as backup, warners, and for logistics. police has no chance at all. i know also some numbers on what they earn by a friend who sadly is a customer of them.
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Whenever we use the work 'Black' or 'White' to describe someone, we are being racist. Nowhere near as ghastly as hearing the word 'Caucasian' and 'Non Caucasian' though. From then on it just get's worse.
South Africa post-Mandela took the words 'Black' and 'White' away, and replaced it with 'Rainbow'. Nothing offensive in that.
An African jew wearing a hoodie.
Racism is not describing someone by their color or ethnicity. It is the belief that race determines your human qualities, and that certain races are inherently superior to others. OMFG.
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ok it really was a dumb question. I thought he was overstrained by the situation and so did not act according to the police "rules of engagement".
Mr cop should know his rules. And not to go with these will result in "trouble" for him.
I think the only canton in the french speaking part using tasers is Geneva..
Folks, whilst I love a good groan, my post has clearly been divisive. Just to clarify, I am not defending a possible drug dealer, I am berating the fact that a Policeman took the law into his own hands and also broke the law. Also that due process was not followed.
As for my second paragraph, if you really want to see which is the worst of the 3 'evil' drugs , alchohol cigarettes or cocaine - go to the hopsitals , cemetaries and family charities that deal with the fallout caused by smoking and alchohol. Cocaine is by far the lesser of the 3 evils.
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Drug dealers are only drug dealers when convicted of that offence. This Policeman was acting as Judge , Jury and executioner. This man was innocent until proven guilty.
As for drug dealers, have a look again at your local barman serving you alchohol, or the Kiosk girl selling you cigarettes. Those lovely legal taxed drugs.
no please! no facts
The OP stated his friend is now getting "some troubles because of this". My point is, if he broke police rules, he should get in trouble
no please! no facts
The OP stated his friend is now getting "some troubles because of this". My point is, if he broke police rules, he should get in trouble
An African jew wearing a hoodie.
Racism is not describing someone by their color or ethnicity. It is the belief that race determines your human qualities, and that certain races are inherently superior to others. OMFG.
Racism is , with very few exceptions , popularly disseminated using colour of skin as a basis for distinction and prejudice. No fancy terminology needed as most racists are ignorant and would never have read your defintion.
Wait wait wait, we're missing the main point, I can get drugs on Claraplatz??!!!!
As far as cop being the bad guy, there is no way to demonstrate racism a cop may have unless
1. The cop says "I'm a racist"
2 The cop admits to pursuing that suspect because he was black"
3. The cop directs a racial derogotory term during the arrest
4. The cop has a documented history of targeting minority races (i.e. repremand, history of public complaints etc).
Proving racism or profiling in the court of law without documentation is a tough one.
From a some one who once wore the uniform.
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Wait wait wait, we're missing the main point, I can get drugs on Claraplatz??!!!!
As far as cop being the bad guy, there is no way to demonstrate racism a cop may have unless
1. The cop says "I'm a racist"
2 The cop admits to pursuing that suspect because he was black"
3. The cop directs a racial derogotory term during the arrest
4. The cop has a documented history of targeting minority races (i.e. repremand, history of public complaints etc).
Proving racism or profiling in the court of law without documentation is a tough one.
From a some one who once wore the uniform.
Fair point, but being in posession of conclusive evidence would make this thread far shorter. Sorry, but I am quite happy filling in the blanks myself and relying on probability and reasonable suspicion
well maybe why would he get trouble if everything he did was appropriate?
Well my oldest son is a cop in Toronto .Be in trouble has a wide range of meaning.And punching some one in the nose is in IMO not unreasonable use of force
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well maybe why would he get trouble if everything he did was appropriate?
Even if you fart it makes you feel guilty and wondering if you farted into the right direction.
This rule infested country makes you always feel like you've just broken a law even an imagined one.
Just the way it goes here you know.
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This is a prime example of how the police force here doesn't have a standardized approach to different situations.
A punch to me is when somebody is too ignorant to express him/herself in words....the police should never punch people but rather contain the situation in a manner that it doesn't escalate.
Do you think punks, strickers or hooligans would listen to them when they are throwing stones at the them ?! In this case, I don't think a long and nice speech would be helpful.
Even if you fart it makes you feel guilty and wondering if you farted into the right direction.
This rule infested country makes you always feel like you've just broken a law even an imagined one.
Just the way it goes here you know.
women fart too?
anyway, OP, do you know what kind of trouble your friend is looking at and why exactly (what accusation)?
[QUOTE=Upthehatters2008;839471]Folks, whilst I love a good groan, my post has clearly been divisive. Just to clarify, I am not defending a possible drug dealer, I am berating the fact that a Policeman took the law into his own hands and also broke the law. Also that due process was not followed.
As for my second paragraph, if you really want to see which is the worst of the 3 'evil' drugs , alchohol cigarettes or cocaine - go to the hopsitals , cemetaries and family charities that deal with the fallout caused by smoking and alchohol. Cocaine is by far the lesser of the 3 evils.
women fart too?
anyway, OP, do you know what kind of trouble your friend is looking at and why exactly (what accusation)?
I have no idea, he didn't tell me. His partner (here we are) was in the car waiting, ready for some action. I don't know what the partner did after that. I wasn't supposed to know the story at all, so I didn't ask too much
In the end, I think he will have to write a report and will get a meeting with his superior and be advised not to do it again. Thanks to arresting this guy, they will find bigger fishes...
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why would he get trouble if everything he did was appropriate?
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