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Airconditioning advice

The heat is.killing.me

Short of sticking my head into the freezer, I am looking at the possibilty of air conditioning. Am I right to say that in rented accomodation, its only possible to get those portable ones? I dont see the landlord saying yes to installing those ones we get in Asia, not to mention the electricity bills.

Is it fairly idiot proof to install or do I need a professional? Does the landlord need to be informed? How high did your electricity bills shoot up when you've installed the unit?

Any advice, tips, experiences or recommendations for a good (read: strong and powerful) unit welcomed.
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Re: Airconditioning advice

Got this one in May:

http://www.fust.ch/de/nav/shop/onlin...ash=4edf52958f

And I'm really pleased with it. We live in an old farmhouse that isn't open plan so placed in the smallish living room with the door shut it is lovely and cold within minutes. Leave the door open and it noticeably cools down the whole floor in about 30 mins. We pop the 2 pipes out of the window, stuff cushions around the opening and draw the curtains!

Disadvantages:it is quite noisy on full speed/lowest temp. and the tray supplied to collect the condensation water is about half the size of a cat litter tray so fills up quickly. I can live with that. Brrrrrrr!

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Re: Airconditioning advice

Hit on the electricity bill....dunno yet.

Fully portable on wheels so we can trundle it around room to room. Too heavy to lift up and down the stairs so will shortly be camping out in the living room if this gorgeous weather continues.
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Old 28.06.2010, 21:11
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I just bought a portable aircon off the forum. Cost me 450chfs, it's a rather large Siemens job (you can probably find the sale thread somewhere). I had to construct a large cardboard seal for an open window and made a hole in it for the pipe. It cools and dries the room well, shoots out freezing air etc. However it *just about* cools a 20m2 room (my office) so I have to keep the door closed all the time. To be honest, it's not ideal, the effect is nothing like shivering in the lobby of a hotel in Singapore, but right now it's 20 C in my office instead of the 30 it should be (we live on the top floor of the building). This makes it all worthwhile.
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Old 28.06.2010, 21:13
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Cheers guys. Most helpful. Keep them coming! Would really love to hear from someone with regards to electricity bills.
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Old 28.06.2010, 21:17
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Cheers guys. Most helpful. Keep them coming! Would really love to hear from someone with regards to electricity bills.
1 KilowattHour = 3412 BTU. Many air conditioners are going to be around the 12000 BTU level. Now, have a look at your electricity bill to get the cost of electricity per KWH, and multiply.
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Re: Airconditioning advice

Get thee to Hornbach!

I saw their flyer a few weeks ago advertising units for CHF 299-499, similar to the one I paid CHF 1800 for back in 2003 (that was the summer we all roasted. Of course, two days after I got the thing, the heat wave finally broke. Go figure.)

(Oh, how I wish Hornbach had entered the Swiss market a few years earlier... could have saved a fortune on household and renovation stuff.)

I've only run the air conditioner maybe a day or two a season in the years since then - once you get the place cooled down and dehumidified, you probably won't need to keep it running.

As for the increased electricity cost... as I explained to my husband, a few days of extra electricity is a whole lot cheaper than half his worldly goods in the divorce settlement.

(Did I mention that I'm not a happy bunny when the mercury starts to climb?)
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Old 28.06.2010, 21:45
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Re: Airconditioning advice

Hurry up and get one summerrain and then report back after the first leccy bill then i'll decide if to get one or not (if I can last long enough that is )
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Re: Airconditioning advice

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The heat is.killing.me

Short of sticking my head into the freezer, I am looking at the possibilty of air conditioning. Am I right to say that in rented accomodation, its only possible to get those portable ones? I dont see the landlord saying yes to installing those ones we get in Asia, not to mention the electricity bills.

Is it fairly idiot proof to install or do I need a professional? Does the landlord need to be informed? How high did your electricity bills shoot up when you've installed the unit?

Any advice, tips, experiences or recommendations for a good (read: strong and powerful) unit welcomed.
Right now it is 36.6 degrees here in lovely Katy, Tx. I cant wait till August! By August it will be an afternoon avg of 37-38c (100f). I would need the square meters of your apartment and approximate shape to compute the size and type of the unit you'll need to acheive a proper balance between cooling and elec bill etc...I have done this to many places in Texas, since I move my work fairly often. (about 10 different workshops/apartments in as many years) I will try to help in any way I can, but it would help to have someone else who knows what products are available in your area. Thanks-M
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Re: Airconditioning advice

Try a fan first. I was surprised how cool I felt with the air circulating around when I was pregnant the whole of last summer.

We have an air con split system in the bedroom and after a couple of minutes I am freezing and I start to cough from the dry air.
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Try a fan first. I was surprised how cool I felt with the air circulating around when I was pregnant the whole of last summer.

We have an air con split system in the bedroom and after a couple of minutes I am freezing and I start to cough from the dry air.
I have a fan on in every room pretty much daily at the moment and even over night in the hall for my poor hot dog dread to think of the electric those are using.

Every year I whinge that I want an air con unit and every year I end up getting by for the few hot weeks a year with the fans and not much activity
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Old 28.06.2010, 22:12
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I would need the square meters of your apartment and approximate shape to compute the size and type of the unit you'll need to acheive a proper balance between cooling and elec bill etc...I have done this to many places in Texas, since I move my work fairly often. (about 10 different workshops/apartments in as many years) I will try to help in any way I can, but it would help to have someone else who knows what products are available in your area. Thanks-M
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Try a fan first. I was surprised how cool I felt with the air circulating around when I was pregnant the whole of last summer.

We have an air con split system in the bedroom and after a couple of minutes I am freezing and I start to cough from the dry air.
I have a fan - we got it from Manor last summer and thought it would tide us by.

Its.not.working. I am a polar bear. I cannot tolerate anything above 18C. I would have moved to Siberia if not for the lack of certain comforts.

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MC likewise. I get very grumpy - to the point of...unpleasant.
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Its.not.working. I am a polar bear. I cannot tolerate anything above 18C. I would have moved to Siberia if not for the lack of certain comforts.


You'd have to choose the right bit of Siberia though. Looks like it is not always so nice and cool.
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I have a fan on in every room pretty much daily at the moment and even over night in the hall for my poor hot dog dread to think of the electric those are using.

Every year I whinge that I want an air con unit and every year I end up getting by for the few hot weeks a year with the fans and not much activity
Don't worry Nicky, fans use up next to no electricity - air con uses a load! My cat has taken to sitting on the air con vent to cool down for a few minutes.
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Re: Airconditioning advice

I think summerrains dog takes after her, when we dog sat him last summer i decided to defrost the freezer, he sat himself almost inside it whilst all the draws were out, like Mother like (dog) son
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At this point I would settle for screens on the windows so I could open the windows at night. To think I used to grumble at how cold my husband wanted the aircon in the bedroom in KL. sigh.
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I think summerrains dog takes after her, when we dog sat him last summer i decided to defrost the freezer, he sat himself almost inside it whilst all the draws were out, like Mother like (dog) son
Nothing's changed. Wouldnt let me open the freezer drawers by plonking himself in front of the freezer when I opened it earlier. Little git.
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Old 28.06.2010, 23:03
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Re: Airconditioning advice

basic principle is to keep the heat outside the house during the day:
- close blinds, put white drapes on windows facing sun
- avoid cooking
- avoid moisture (clothe washing, showers)
- fans everywhere

during the night: wash, cook and open windows to cool
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during the night: wash, cook and open windows to cool
Just don't forget the proviso - not after 22.00
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Re: Airconditioning advice

Never really noticed how much electric my ac uses; it is only run relatively few days each year. Not like hot countries where you run it all summer. Also usually Swiss places are reasonably well insulated so once it is cooled down then it stays cool without using much power.
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