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Old 23.07.2010, 13:08
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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

a net-wage is not possible to tell. exception: the company is willing to pay specifically all extra cost. but unless you are here and taxed...the comp wont know how much this is going to be.
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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

Many people choose not to have a car - it saves loads. Me, hubby and son have lived well without wheels for 4 years now. We cycle and take public transport - which is really excellent and if you buy a half price card - it's very reasonable. On the rare occasion when we do use a car (Europa park - Ikea - etc) we use the Mobility scheme - works really well.

Have to add - while our son was younger we lived for years on a single income of just under 8,000 a month and lived well. (4.5 zimmer - 3 bedroom - 2 story masionette with small garden just outside Basel) We took one holiday a year (skiing or beach) on top of me and our son visiting the UK 3 or 4 times a year (flight only - we stayed with family there)

Like you we chose a pretty simple lifestyle, home cooking etc. Things have changed now I'm back at work - but I found it was possible to live well (by my standards) (with a child too) on that amount.
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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

Thanks everyone for your help. I'm in final discussions now and will certainly use what I've learned here to make my decision. I'll keep you posted. Have a good weekend.
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Old 26.07.2010, 12:31
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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

Hi Nicktitane,

Everyone seems to have answered your questions, but I live just outside winterthur on less than your salary! All I can say is welcome to winterthur...beautiful city!

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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

Can someone shed some light on the communal tax for winterthur is?
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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

I live in Winterthur and I think this salary is OK. Your wife can get a job later but the tax in Winterthur is not so low that's why some rich people move away. You can eat meat too . We go to Coop 2 or 3 times a week, each time cost around 200 CHF and we can eat a lot of beef.

The tax I don't know very well but my friend can save nearly 1 million a year just moving to Zug or somewhere near.
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I am comparing Zug and Winterthur from Finland, and I would say that there are two main reasons I prefer Winterthur: more 4.5 flats to rent and more places to go with kids. Points for Zug are lower personal and business taxes. I have not really on the map yet about taxes, and at this point more I read more confused I become.
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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

C'om !! Everybody knows to go to Konstanz for the meat! and groceries!


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i hope you enjoy canned beans because on that salary, eating meat is out of the question.
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I am comparing Zug and Winterthur from Finland, and I would say that there are two main reasons I prefer Winterthur: more 4.5 flats to rent and more places to go with kids. Points for Zug are lower personal and business taxes. I have not really on the map yet about taxes, and at this point more I read more confused I become.
Winterthur is really nice place to live with children, there is an English expat group here, the main shopping area is wonderful with lots of English speaking doctors, International school, Kindergarden and daycare in English, safe, beautiful, great location close to Germany for grocery shopping and general shopping, around 30 mis drive only, and to Zurich 20 mins drive, close to alps too, great location dont think about it! Opp one more thing, the Kanton Hospital Winterthur is a top hospital with great service right at the heart of town, also a good library with english books and dvds, xmas fairs, february fair street parade, lots of activites to celebrate.

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Winterthur is really nice place to live with children, there is an English expat group here, the main shopping area is wonderful with lots of English speaking doctors, International school, Kindergarden and daycare in English, safe, beautiful, great location close to Germany for grocery shopping and general shopping, around 30 mis drive only, and to Zurich 20 mins drive, close to alps too, great location dont think about it! Opp one more thing, the Kanton Hospital Winterthur is a top hospital with great service right at the heart of town, also a good library with english books and dvds, xmas fairs, february fair street parade, lots of activites to celebrate.
Thank you! English is actually our #3 after Russian and Finnish. But I guess we find more of Russian for kids in Winterthur too. Grocery and shues shopping in Germany are very attractive. I've been in Germany two times and I loved dining and shopping there. How Swiss customs would look at minivan loaded with pork and weissbier coming from Germany?
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Hello,

I'm married with no children and we have been offered to come to work in Switzerland. They are offering me 13 x 7000 CHF/month net (13 meaning they pay 13 times per year).

Now I'm from Canada, so it's hard for me to evaluate if this is good or not. I've been told by aquaintances that for two to live well, you need 8500 CHF/month net. I find this a bit high. To define living well, we want to rent a 2 bedroom appartment, later on a small compact car, visit a little bit Europe since we will be there, and be able to save a bit at the end of the month.

Can somebody tell me if the 13 x 7000 CHF/month net is good or not.

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While I accept the question about the cost of living I regard the approach as wrong. Why ?
> Because you earn an exceedingly high salary, and so will be able to live well almost anywhere here !
> No, you do NOT need CHF 4000 per person net per month. That is rubbish. Below 2000 per person per month it however starts to be narrow. And in this, the rent for the lodgings is NOT included. IF the rent for the apartment is included it may well be CHF 3500.-- to 5000.-- in total
- This is why so many people now live between Zürich-Nord and Schaffhausen and that includes most of Winterthur.The monthly rents for apartments in most of Zürich-City are skyrocketing.

What does this mean ? Include northern outer suburbs ( Glattbrugg, Wallisellen, Dübendorf, Bassersdorf, Oberglatt, Bülach, Eglisau etc ) and "up-the-lake-suburbs" Thalwil, Horgen, Wädenswil, Richterswil) and Winterthur and Schaffhausen into your considerations and investigations. Try to get an acceptable apartment for LESS than CHF 2000.-- per month and you will have, as living as two persons, quite some reserves !
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...Try to get an acceptable apartment for LESS than CHF 2000.-- per month and you will have, as living as two persons, quite some reserves !
I can see several 4,5 flats in Winterthur for less than 2000 CHF. On pictures they do not seem bad. What else can go wrong? Bad neighborhood? Church? Some extra payments? Permission to move only one day per year? Or are they just OK?
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I can see several 4,5 flats in Winterthur for less than 2000 CHF. On pictures they do not seem bad. What else can go wrong? Bad neighborhood? Church? Some extra payments? Permission to move only one day per year? Or are they just OK?
I don't see any problems with flats in Winterthur. And the neighbourhoods in Winterthur are ok.
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Winterthur is a great place to live, for singles, couples or families. It is cheaper than Zurich, and smaller towns outside winterthur are cheaper again. You can afford a large house outside winterthur for the price if a small flat in Zurich (Rent or buy ...) Checkout homegate.CH to compare. It was once an important industrial city,and has one of the best art collections in the world. Worth a visit.

It is still in canton Zurich, so same tax rules; it varies by community. Taxes are higher in the cities like Winti and Zh and often lower in surrounding villages ... all within the same canton...

And it is absolutely booming!

We love living in the commuter belt to Zurich, in a small town outside winterthur, enjoying the benefits of both cities; and we pay low taxes and low house prices. Kids walk or ride bikes by themselves safely to school (and sports activities, and to their friends). We go out and socialize in Winti and Zurich.

Previously we've lived in two other continents in much bigger cities. Winterthur has it all.

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Re: Cost of living - Winterthur near Zurich

What is the commute on trains like to and from Zurich? A friend mentioned that the ride, on either way, on this particular route can be difficult at office rush hours.
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