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Private Business Schools in Switzerland Help

Hello I am George Panayotidis and I am interested in doing an MBA in Switzerland master in business management etc. The Universities I have found are UIBS University Europe University, SBS, International University of Geneva and SBL in Lausanne. Has anyone studied there? Can you please tell me about your experience there and if it is easy to find a job or internship through the University in Switzerland. Thank you very much for your time I really hope you answer you would help me a lot.
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UIBS University in Zurich help

Hello I am George Panayotidis and I am interested in doing an MBA-master in Zurich Switzerland master in business in UIBS University. Has anyone studied there?


Can you please tell me about your experience there and if it is easy to find a job or internship through the University in Switzerland. Thank you very much for your time I really hope you answer you would help me a lot.
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Re: UIBS University in Zurich help

It's not a university. It's a private institution with no proper affiliation and likely no real accreditation of the "degree".

Waste of time and money. Look for a proper school that offers you an actual real degree.


FYI - if you're interested in a "real" MBA (i.e. not some other Masters degree that just calls itself MBA but really isn't), Switzerland has VERY FEW proper programs. The MBA is not a protected title, 80% of whatever institutions you may come across are worth crap (not just in Switzerland, but everywhere).
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European University Geneva good for MBA??

Hi my name is George and i am thinking of doing an MBA in European University in global banking or in international marketing. Anyone studied there and can share thoughts? Most importantly does the University help after graduation to find an internship-job? Thank you very much for your help.
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Hi George,

Have you also considered other Unis? HSG or Unil/HEC come to mind for business related studies. I'm not sure the European University would give you a competitive edge to be honest, but I look forward to hearing other opinions Generally speaking, private Unis aren't among the best here (in my opinion at least).

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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Thank you very much for your answer however the MBA in st Gallen costs 70k which is more than double from European university and the deadline for HEC has passed...
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Oh I see.. Other cheaper options would be available in Germany or the Netherlands (e.g. Maastricht University, which I believe is top 10 for economics and business studies. http://www.maastrichtuniversity.nl/w...Programmes.htm)

Not sure when their deadlines are though.

Good luck! I hope a former student finds your post
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

I would really like to do my master in Switzerland and then work there, thank you very much i also hope someone sees my post
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Thank you very much for your answer however the MBA in st Gallen costs 70k which is more than double from European university and the deadline for HEC has passed...
Actually no it doesn't. Fees for courses are quite low here in Switzerland compared to other countries. St. Gallen is CHF4,252 per year for foreign students. You can find more about studying here, including fees and other costs, on the CRUS website:

http://www.crus.ch/information-progr...ml?L=2#8_Costs

European University doesn't even give you the tuition fees, it keeps coming up with an error message.
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Actually MBA for ST Gallen is 50k you are checking for masters and also the deadline has passed for masters. For European University its around 30k.
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If you are planning to stay in CH after your studies, I would really try to get into a Swiss University. If you are going to a private non-Swiss University in Switzerland, you might as well go abroad. I think future employers would like to see a link to Switzerland in the form of studies concluded at a public Swiss Uni. Perhaps if you can't get into a Swiss Uni for your masters you could try to find an internship and get important work connections that way. Just my 2 cents

Just in case you haven't seen this link before, here is a list of English Masters at CH Unis: http://www.crus.ch/information-progr...glish.html?L=2

Maybe it helps

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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Thank you very much for your answer. Actually i have been admitted to Neuchatel University Master in Finance, however i was told from 2 alumnis i found through facebook that the University did not help them at all after graduation and one of them had to return to his country and the other found an internship after 1 year. Also they found the the program was extremely difficult and they told me that 50% fails from 1st semester...

Furthermore its 2 years while private Universities are 1 year and what i am interested in the most is whether the University connects you with the job market.
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

What I can tell you is that we have 4 Swiss universities in the top 100 ranking, while nobody ever speaks of private European uni in Geneva...

Moreover, the difficulty of the masters programs is a sign of their quality: a uni does not need to help its alumni finding jobs, because the good ones who finished it do not need it... Anyway, in my opinion it's not a university's job to find work for its students!

If you're looking for an 'easy' master that is also well reviewed on the job market, I think you have to rethink your priorities...

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What I can tell you is that we have 4 Swiss universities in the top 100 ranking, while nobody ever speaks of private European uni in Geneva...
Exactly, though they're good for MA/MS degrees, but not for MBAs. There's one very good MBA in Switzerland at that is the one at IMD and a solid one at the business school with the University of St. Gallen (not top-tier either, but that's not always necessary anyway).



Also, OP, please don't mix up Masters and MBA degrees. They're not the same. What is it you want to study? There's no MBA at the University of Neuchatel. There's MS/MA degrees, and that includes that Master of Finance you're talking about. The "business schools" (or those that claim to be) are something else.

Got your PM. Let me know if I can answer in this thread as you repeated the questions here too. If not, I'll respond via PM.
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I am not looking for an easy master of course and i do not want the University to find me a job, however in my opinion it is the University's obligation to connect you with the job market. Also as i already stated the master in Neuchatel that they told me it is tough, the people who told me finished it however they did not manage to get a job so i do not agree with what you say.

Finally i am not Swiss and i don't have all the time in the world , because if i do not find a job within 3 months or so my visa will expire and i will have to leave the country...

Anyway i really thank you for your advice, do you think all private Universities are bad in Switzerland? You do not know anyone who has gone there and found job etc? Or have you only heard bad things about them?

Samaire thank you very much for posting please respond to me via pm if its not a trouble to you thank you very much

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however in my opinion it is the University's obligation to connect you with the job market.
Yeah it's really not. Might be the case in the US and UK. Here? Not so much.

A university won't really connect you with the job market. A business school might as they're purpose is slightly different from that of a university.


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Yes most are bad and/or just not worth the money. Sure people will find jobs. But that's usually because recruiters have not the slightest clue about which degree is worth what, let alone the quality of the various institutions, and will fall for anything that claims to be an "MBA". At some point, this might change and they may start to separate the wheat from the chaff. If you don't care for the moment - then go ahead. Personally, I think it's a waste of money.

I'm not saying that a top-tier MBA is always the way to go and you sometimes pay for the name rather than the content. However, if you're going to invest 50-100k, you might as well invest it in a real degree rather than one that is not even accredited with a relevant institution.

There's some 5000 MBA programs out there. Less than 10% are accredited properly. Again, the title is not protected and anyone can open a private company and claim to offer an MBA degree.

Again, an MS/MA degree is a different story! Switzerland has outstanding universities that offer equally outstanding MA/MS degrees.

So bottom line: if you want a Master in Finance, that is a Master of Arts or Master of Science, by all means, the University of Neuchatel is a MUCH better choice.
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Actually, recognized universities here don't get ressources to actively connect their graduates the job market, that's not their mission.

Here, a graduate will land a job not because of the intervention of the uni he/she studied at, but mainly because of his/her grade and, above all, where he/she got the degree.

As others have said, a degree from a non recognized university in Switzerland won't be competitive enough among thousands of graduates fror renowned and recognized institutions in Switzerland and Europe who want to enter the labour market here.

A one-year study (or so) is attractive from that private uni but I'm affraid not a strategic choice.

My 2 cents, good luck
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

In case anyone reading is confused, I have merged three threads started by OP that ask pretty much the same question.
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Re: European University Geneva good for MBA??

Wanted to add that while you are here in Switzerland there will be plenty of occasions for you to make connections if you join clubs in and outside the University you are attending. There are lots of social clubs, expat clubs, special interest clubs etc.
The only reason some private Universities stress the fact that they help you with the job search is because this is one of the few things they have to set them apart from other Unis. So be very careful not to fall for this Sure, some private Unis may have special links to certain corporations. They may also send newsletters with jobs/internships or have a career counselor in place for its students. But so do most public Universities (I attended 2 public Swiss Universities, so I am speaking of experience) and most importantly, you will be competing against hundreds of students.
So bottom line: A degree from a recognized University and a go-getter attitude can get you anywhere
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I am not looking for an easy master of course and i do not want the University to find me a job, however in my opinion it is the University's obligation to connect you with the job market. Also as i already stated the master in Neuchatel that they told me it is tough, the people who told me finished it however they did not manage to get a job so i do not agree with what you say.

Finally i am not Swiss and i don't have all the time in the world , because if i do not find a job within 3 months or so my visa will expire and i will have to leave the country...

Anyway i really thank you for your advice, do you think all private Universities are bad in Switzerland? You do not know anyone who has gone there and found job etc? Or have you only heard bad things about them?

Samaire thank you very much for posting please respond to me via pm if its not a trouble to you thank you very much
So I'm confused now. Your location is given as Greece so you're not here, but your visa will expire in 3 months if you don't find a job. I assume you mean a Swiss permit, not visa, so are you trying to study or find a job? And where, exactly, are you?
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