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Old 16.05.2009, 21:24
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

It looks rather like my post will terminate a month before I can start my new one elsewhere. What's the score with signing on then if you already have a job lined up - do they still expect you to make applications and go on courses and so on?
I'm going to try fishing for another month at the current post, but I'm not exactly the most popular employee with the boss at the moment...
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Nationality is irrelevant to unemployment benefits. If you have contributed enough premiums, then you are entitled to benefits.

Special treatment for those who previously worked in an EU country. Their prior contributions in the EU could be counted to determine benefits eligibility in Switzerland.

RAV benefits are definitely worth applying for. You may be lucky and they indeed count the 3 months at 40%.

What does this mean "count the 3 months at 40%" ?

Does it affect the unemployment benefit if one only have worked part-time in an EU-country ?

You have only prove that you have contributed to the social security system regardless of the time worked and money earned in order to qualify for benefits, isn´t it ?

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Old 19.05.2009, 23:02
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What does this mean "count the 3 months at 40%" ?

Does it affect the unemployment benefit if one only have worked part-time in an EU-country ?

You have only prove that you have contributed to the social security system regardless of the time worked and money earned in order to qualify for benefits, isn´t it ?

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These are very technical and detailed questions. Just pop over to your friendly neighborhood RAV. They will give you accurate and binding answers.
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Old 11.08.2009, 13:51
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Oh yeah, and important for foreigners: You are entitled to stay in Switzerland for as long as your RAV allowance lasts, even if your permit runs out during that time. You will get a short term permit that allows you to stay and get your entitlement.


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Do you know how to renew a residence permit while collecting allowance from RAV? I am going through a similar nightmare. I have been collecting benefits from RAV since July and my B permit will expire in August. I have been having monthly meeting with RAV about my job search, etc. and my allowance is valid until 2011.

When I asked for a residence permit renewal, I have received a letter from the Migration Office last week that they plan to decline my renewal request and told me that I had a right for a written appeal before they officially decline my application. The reason why they intend to decline my renewal request is that my B permit was attached to my work contract and since I no longer work for the company, there is not a sufficient ground to renew my permit.
How can I prolong my permit?
Should I send them a copy of my RAV registration or what?

Any help/advice is very much appreciated.
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Old 12.08.2009, 11:50
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

If they qualify for unemployment benefits, only EU nationals are granted residency for two years of unemployment in a row. (German source - last paragraph)
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http://www.awa.zh.ch/internet/vd/awa/de/home.html

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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

Hi All,

I found these posts really helpful, even though I am now employed, things are shakey and there is no guarentee I will be employed in the long term,

I have 2 questions

I work for finance company since 2002, if they make cutbacks, are you entitled to any type of redundancy type payment, or is it normal, just 3 months notice.

I have c permit, but what happens if you get to the end of the RAV 18 mths ( I actually thought it was 2 years) would your permit not be renewed, if you had no work.

My partner also has C and we have a little boy, got to think ahead.

thanks
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Old 13.08.2009, 15:22
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I work for finance company since 2002, if they make cutbacks, are you entitled to any type of redundancy type payment, or is it normal, just 3 months notice.
By law you're entitled to the notice period salary no matter if you are on garden leave or not. The legal minimum for 2-9 years of employment is 2 months but your contract may specify a bigger period. Some companies offer additional assistance (Sozialplan) when they downsize massively, but this is voluntary.

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I have c permit, but what happens if you get to the end of the RAV 18 mths ( I actually thought it was 2 years) would your permit not be renewed, if you had no work.
It's a period of 2 years during which most are entitled to 400 workday payments of unemployment benefit. If this lasts for one and a half years or longer depends on how many temporary jobs you get in this time.
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

thanks for that, hopefully it will not come to it, but in these times it is a worry, especially since we have a 3 year old boy and I cannot imagine what we would do if my permit was not rewnewed, we would all have to up sticks I suppose.

my contract states 3 moths, its just a pain to think of slogging it out for years and then at the end of it, gettting 3 mths notice that you have to work throug and not a penny bonus for your troubles ha.
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Old 13.10.2009, 23:19
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

hello,

i need help from some better informed/more experienced.

we have a "funny" situation at work. we had a merge with an other company and they have all the power. so our boss the cfo is fired. the new guys are from an other country and it seems they want to move hq to that other country(despite we are listed, but anyway they can do it). the new cfo told us he needs us bla bla bla, but we just know that he started to build up a new finance team there. so obviously our days our counted. we currently in a position when we could fight for some advantageous package for ourselfs. a few month and we face the year end closing and teh annual report and up to now, no know how or knowledge transferred to the new guys (which would not be such a big problem to them if this company's financials would be clean and clear, which is not). that said teh coming months without us would be a real pain for them. so the idea is that we talk with teh new cfo about a good package or we hand in our notice right now if he refuses.

i think there is a good chance that they wont let us threat them and just let us go.

and here is my question: will i get unemployment benefits even if I hand in my notice?( i work here more than 1 year)

my other two colleagues are quite enthusiastic, but they do not have family to feed, so honestly I am not that happy with this situation.(on the other hand i will be more than probably unemployed after the annual report anyway)

as far as the question, i certainly did some research but have received different answers. Or is it possible to call RAV and ask their opinion in advance?

any help is greatly appreciated
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Old 13.10.2009, 23:26
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hello,

i need help from some better informed/more experienced.

we have a "funny" situation at work. we had a merge with an other company and they have all the power. so our boss the cfo is fired. the new guys are from an other country and it seems they want to move hq to that other country(despite we are listed, but anyway they can do it). the new cfo told us he needs us bla bla bla, but we just know that he started to build up a new finance team there. so obviously our days our counted. we currently in a position when we could fight for some advantageous package for ourselfs. a few month and we face the year end closing and teh annual report and up to now, no know how or knowledge transferred to the new guys (which would not be such a big problem to them if this company's financials would be clean and clear, which is not). that said teh coming months without us would be a real pain for them. so the idea is that we talk with teh new cfo about a good package or we hand in our notice right now if he refuses.

i think there is a good chance that they wont let us threat them and just let us go.

and here is my question: will i get unemployment benefits even if I hand in my notice?( i work here more than 1 year)

my other two colleagues are quite enthusiastic, but they do not have family to feed, so honestly I am not that happy with this situation.(on the other hand i will be more than probably unemployed after the annual report anyway)

as far as the question, i certainly did some research but have received different answers. Or is it possible to call RAV and ask their opinion in advance?

any help is greatly appreciated
If you hand in notice, then RAV might make you wait up to 3 months till you get benefits.

The correct procedure is:
  1. You immediately start applying for other jobs in Switzerland.
  2. Keep meticulous documentation of your job hunting efforts.
  3. Wait till the employer dismisses you.
  4. Sign up at the RAV
You then get unemployment benefits beginning 5 days after your redundancy payments are used up.
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

Hi all,

I have seen the cap for unemployment benefits mentioned a couple times in this thread, with the last at 110kchf. I have connected through to the links mentioned here as well but can not navigate to an official statement of the cap for unemployment benefits either at www.admin.ch or www.rav.ch or www.treffpunkt-arbeit.ch

Can anyone help me with this? I just need an official reference on what the cap is for unemployment benefits, assuming you meet the other requirements for eligibility.

Many thanks.
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Old 15.05.2011, 14:16
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Hi all,

I have seen the cap for unemployment benefits mentioned a couple times in this thread, with the last at 110kchf. I have connected through to the links mentioned here as well but can not navigate to an official statement of the cap for unemployment benefits either at www.admin.ch or www.rav.ch or www.treffpunkt-arbeit.ch

Can anyone help me with this? I just need an official reference on what the cap is for unemployment benefits, assuming you meet the other requirements for eligibility.

Many thanks.
cap is CHF10460 Per month or so and you get 70% or 80% (if you have kids living with you).Of course that is brutto as you need to pay your local and federal taxes and other deductions.
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cap is CHF10460 Per month or so and you get 70% or 80% (if you have kids living with you).Of course that is brutto as you need to pay your local and federal taxes and other deductions.
here is a document from one of the Arbeitslosenkassen Unia. What you are looking for is on page 3 http://www.unia.ch/uploads/media/Mer...chaedigung.pdf
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

Hi Guys,
I have similar question like "finesse" had. I need your help in the name of my friend. He worked in Switzerland (as an EU-member citizen with permit "B") more then one year then he was fired. He immediately registered at RAV and got the unemployment benefit. Then (after half a year) he got a new job some weeks ago. This is a contracted job for only six months in Switzerland. Unfortunately it turned out that job requirements are not the same as expected and atmosphere is getting unbearable. He really doesn't know what to do. So the question:
- Will he get unemployment benefit by RAV if he hands in his notice after some weeks in the new workplace?
- Or should he wait till the employer dismisses him?
He deregistered at RAV when got the new job and of course he'd register again after loosing the new job. He applied for positions so far and filled in the form ("Arbeitsbemühungen").
Thanks you so much for your help.
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

This is a very useful post.

I wonder if 'RAV' is the German short form for the unemployment benefits?

I would also like to know what happens after the period of benefit is due? Usually you get a year, right? So what if you still find nothing during the one year. That means you will be kicked out by the country?
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These are very technical and detailed questions. Just pop over to your friendly neighborhood RAV. They will give you accurate and binding answers.
They will give you an answer, often incorrect & not in acordence with the law. There decisions can be appealed if they are incorrect!
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This is a very useful post.

I wonder if 'RAV' is the German short form for the unemployment benefits?

I would also like to know what happens after the period of benefit is due? Usually you get a year, right? So what if you still find nothing during the one year. That means you will be kicked out by the country?
RAv is the unemployment office.

If you have worked for 18 months in the last 24 months then you can get upto 400 days unepmolyment pay payable over 24 months. An average month has 21,6 work days.

You can get a full time job or part time work or even temorary work. Being kicked out is more a work permit issue. The RAV will renew your work permit whilst your 'working for them'!

If after you have used up your 400 days, you might be able to get social help, however don't expect to get your permit renewed again, so in the end you might have to leave.
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Re: RAV registration and benefit payable.

Does anybody knows how the unemployed benefits are calculated if I'm working on an hourly rate? Is it a kind of average monthly figure?

If person on a dependent non-EU B permit (so there is no need for the work permit) is he/she eligible for unemployment benefits?

Thanks!
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Old 29.08.2012, 11:58
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Does anybody knows how the unemployed benefits are calculated if I'm working on an hourly rate? Is it a kind of average monthly figure?

If person on a dependent non-EU B permit (so there is no need for the work permit) is he/she eligible for unemployment benefits?

Thanks!
Benefit is calculated on your average earnings over a period of 1 year no based on how your pay is calculated.

Yes, you are eligible as dependent B EU
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