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23.01.2012, 14:06
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Could someone please let me know what happens when you resign from your post as opposed to being sacked, or presumably, made redundant?
Do you still receive payments from the state? Are you penalised in any way?
Personal circumstances are: UK citizen worked here since 2009, always for the same company and full time employed. Although I am fully aware of the stupidity of quitting a job when you don't have another, I still would like to know the answer to the question!
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23.01.2012, 14:13
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments?
how about asking at the RAV to get the proper answers rather then the guess work and arguments you'll get on here?
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23.01.2012, 14:19
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Because posting here takes two minutes and perhaps someone has been through the process...
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23.01.2012, 14:23
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | |
Do you still receive payments from the state? Are you penalised in any way? | | | | | Yes and Yes...
Penalty is 3 months pay, so you don't get paid for the first 3 months.
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23.01.2012, 14:25
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | how about asking at the RAV to get the proper answers rather then the guess work and arguments you'll get on here? | | | | | This is something I find really strange about forums (not just this one) and questions like this, the law, divorce etc etc.
On a forum one post tells you one thing then the very next post will tell you something different. Me I want to know the facts so would go to the correct place and in most cases it is a lawyer, the local Gemeinde or a Doctor.
I can understand people coming on for a friendly 'ear' but for facts, go to the professionals.
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23.01.2012, 14:27
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments?
If you resign, you will not get any money for 90 days and will still have to go to any courses the RAV sees fit. If you provoke your employer to fire you/ask them to let you go, the RAV will ask for the reason and it will still be counted as you resigning.
Any particular reason for leaving? Fancy a state-paid holiday or is the job really that unbearable?
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23.01.2012, 14:39
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | Yes and Yes...
Penalty is 3 months pay, so you don't get paid for the first 3 months. | | | | | So, if you quit the job, and you want to receive the payments from the government claiming that you are unemployed, you wont receive any payment for the first 3 months just because you quit? That’s interesting...
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23.01.2012, 14:48
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | Because posting here takes two minutes and perhaps someone has been through the process... | | | | | This is true although there's the chance that some information or advice given here may be incorrect.
I'd also contact the RAV soonest. | 
23.01.2012, 14:49
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | So, if you quit the job, and you want to receive the payments from the government claiming that you are unemployed, you wont receive any payment for the first 3 months just because you quit? That’s interesting... | | | | | It's called "unemployment insurance" for a reason. Otherwise there'd be plenty free loaders who "just quit" as you say and doodle off for a couple months paid holidays.
Also you probably fail to realise that "the government" doesn't have its own money. Whatever money you receive from "the government" comes from the rest of the contributors.
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23.01.2012, 14:56
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | On a forum one post tells you one thing then the very next post will tell you something different. | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | Penalty is 3 months pay, so you don't get paid for the first 3 months. | | | | | Guess what, here's a post telling you something different.
The waiting period in cases where the employee has resigned is not a fixed 90 days/3 months. It varies according to a number of factors, including the canton in which you live, how long you've worked at your company, whether you've claimed benefits before (and if so, how long ago), and the personal approach of the advisor allocated to you at the RAV.
As everyone else has said, get thee to the RAV and make your enquiries directly to the horse, so to speak.
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23.01.2012, 15:17
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | Guess what, here's a post telling you something different.
The waiting period in cases where the employee has resigned is not a fixed 90 days/3 months. It varies according to a number of factors, including the canton in which you live, how long you've worked at your company, whether you've claimed benefits before (and if so, how long ago), and the personal approach of the advisor allocated to you at the RAV.
As everyone else has said, get thee to the RAV and make your enquiries directly to the horse, so to speak. | | | | | This is helpful - thanks. I'm not sure why anyone thinks I would take the info here as verbatim. It's just good to ask people who may know for a heads up.
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23.01.2012, 15:27
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments?
Hello there,
Like 22 yards commented, I think RAV evaluates every case individually based on how long you have work and the reason why you quit your job. A colleague of mine quit working and I'm sure that she was not penalized for 3 months.
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23.01.2012, 15:53
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments?
Agree .. forum is just a starter for ten. Why turn up at the "RAV" looking like a moron with no information at all.
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23.01.2012, 16:42
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | Why turn up at the "RAV" looking like a moron with no information at all. | | | | | Because it's better to look like a moron in front of a wide audience as opposed to a single person?
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23.01.2012, 16:57
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | Because it's better to look like a moron in front of a wide audience as opposed to a single person? | | | | | The forum, however, is an anonymous wide audience. | 
23.01.2012, 17:03
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | Because it's better to look like a moron in front of a wide audience as opposed to a single person? | | | | |  If asking for help/advice on a forum, on a subject you don't know the answer to, counts you as a moron, then I guess that's what I am. However, I would tend to be of the opinoin that useless , point-scoring comments such as this are 'moronic'.
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23.01.2012, 17:11
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | If asking for help/advice on a forum, on a subject you don't know the answer to, counts you as a moron, then I guess that's what I am. However, I would tend to be of the opinoin that useless , point-scoring comments such as this are 'moronic'. | | | | | My point was quite the opposite. There's nothing moronic in asking for advice - and especially not asking the specialist, that's what they're there for after all. There's no point in "feeling like a moron in front of the RAV" person - s/he is doing his job.
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23.01.2012, 17:17
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23.01.2012, 17:26
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments?
Wouldn't the RAV take a dim view if you said you were considering leaving paid employment? Then I suppose the OP might legitimately fear asking the RAV that as it could set a precedent should the actual situation comes to play - it could affect their future entitlements if handled badly. I would want to get as much information to hand first - even if the advice is that the RAV are fairly neutral in this regard.
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23.01.2012, 21:03
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| | | Re: Quit your job: RAV entitlments? | Quote: | |  | | | If you resign, you will not get any money for 90 days and will still have to go to any courses the RAV sees fit. If you provoke your employer to fire you/ask them to let you go, the RAV will ask for the reason and it will still be counted as you resigning.
Any particular reason for leaving? Fancy a state-paid holiday or is the job really that unbearable? | | | | | The 90 days is a punishment in Addition to your normal waiting time.
You don't actually have 90 days removed from your entitlement, it's just an extra 4.16 months without a payout. (21.6 average working days a month)
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