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If it stands in company's code of conduct, my damn right to it. 10 47.62%
It might create conflict between employees or get me exposed in terms of job security. 2 9.52%
I have such option but never use it because of my integrity at workplace. 4 19.05%
Non of the above subject to further discussion. 6 28.57%
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Pros and cons of home office :)

Probably it's very familiar term to many expats who make use of such privilege offered by employer. For those who it isn't, it basically provides an option of working one day a week at home instead of at the office, which it usually falls on Fridays. I had chat with my mates in SA and they claim this kind of practice is seldom heard of in their respective places of employment. Btw: we are talking industrial jobs here. It would not be in place and rather chutzpah to ask stressed employer with already tight schedule who usually pushes for overtime instead.

It would be nice to hear your opinion on such facility. Use but not abuse some would point out. How is it viewed in Switzerland by your companies and workmates?
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Re: Cons and pros of home office :)

Pros
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You can get up late, work in your underwear (or less), not bother shaving, go to the shops (but probably is best to get dressed if you do this), watch TV, surf the web, be really efficient and get all your days work done in half an hour...

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You don't get any free cakes if anyone brings them in to the office.
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Old 19.08.2012, 19:13
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You can get up late, work in your underwear (or less), not bother shaving, go to the shops (but probably is best to get dressed if you do this), watch TV, surf the web, be really efficient and get all your days work done in half an hour...

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You don't get any free cakes if anyone brings them in to the office.
Yes, the cake part cannot be missed... Any other more altruistic reasons?

Let's say you have a task to be completed with deadline which might as well be done at home. Your colleagues come regularly every Friday to work but you stay at home. Won't they be crossed with you not clocking same hours as theirs at your desk?
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

I sometimes work from home, it saves me two hours worth of commuting and I'm generally a lot more productive, even though I work less hours.
Ultimately I'm paid to deliver results, not occupy a desk from 9 - 5, so as long as I do that my boss couldn't care less. Both sides just need to be mature about it.
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Won't they be crossed with you not clocking same hours as theirs at your desk?
If they are doing the same job then maybe... but if so they could work at home also...

If you are paid to do a job and you are doing it well then hours shouldn't be an issue.

If you are paid by the hour then who is going to know that you can actually do 8 hours work in 30 mins of Fridays when you are not in the office
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

Big CON:

When the OH escapes and leaves the kids in your care when your trying to concentrate and they decide to have a fight….
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

Please don't mix up working from home and home office.

Home office is often a fixed day in the week that is used to extend the weekend.
Working from home is when you are actually doing something.
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

Personally not a big fan of it for me or my staff.

In open plan setting, if people need focus on a deliverable no issue booking a meeting room for quiet.

I feel this so strongly now Ive started being self employed, and working from home office if not travelling, thinking of getting an outside office just to make the distinction between home and work.
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Please don't mix up working from home and home office.

Home office is often a fixed day in the week that is used to extend the weekend.
Working from home is when you are actually doing something.
Who is confused?

EDIT: I am, more M&Ms less wine!
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Personally not a big fan of it for me or my staff.

In open plan setting, if people need focus on a deliverable no issue booking a meeting room for quiet.

I feel this so strongly now Ive started being self employed, and working from home office if not travelling, thinking of getting an outside office just to make the distinction between home and work.
I purchased a camping car, because home office days are just too damn stressful !
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

I only work 16 hours a week, so would probably be taking the piss if I asked for home days...
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

I did it in my previous job once in a while, when a bit sick to go to work but would not do it on a regular basis as it is easy to get distracted. Then again if you are in an open office environment it is better to do the stuff you need to concentrate on at home...
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Please don't mix up working from home and home office.

Home office is often a fixed day in the week that is used to extend the weekend.
Working from home is when you are actually doing something.
I didnt know that.

Some fathers of other children I know do "Home Office" one day a week. Their job did not allow them to work "reduced hours" eg 80%, but the boss allowed Home Office.

I am lucky enough to be allowed to "work from home" when one of the kids is sick.

I doubt either of us work "more" or "less" than the other.
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

it's a mixed bag. i unilaterally decided to start working from home one or two days a week, but now am cutting this back to a day every 2 weeks to show more facetime at work.

on the one hand, i can save 3 hours of commuting each day and seriously improve my quality of life. on the other hand, not all employers are as enlightened yet to alternative working practices.
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Re: Pros and cons of home office :)

I don't see it as a privilege, rather sensible business practice for some kinds of jobs.

I'm an IT specialist. I've been working from home off and on since 1995 (over a 14k modem using dial back).

Where the worker is concerned with doing a good job, and the employer/client is only concerned with whether the job is done, it works fine. Where you have controlling, untrusting employers and/or slackers for employees, then it isn't going to work - but if that's the case, you've already got a crap place to work, and allowing a few special employees to work from home as a favour isn't going to change that. The problems are rather deeper...

If you're going to work at home effectively, you need a seperate office. The dining room table doesn't cut it. If you have family they need to understand that when you're in the office - your effectively not available.

Any sensible non-dinosauric employer will implement it where the specifics of the job make it possible. With modern communications, it's just silly not to.
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I sometimes work from home, it saves me two hours worth of commuting and I'm generally a lot more productive, even though I work less hours.
Ultimately I'm paid to deliver results, not occupy a desk from 9 - 5, so as long as I do that my boss couldn't care less. Both sides just need to be mature about it.
It goes without saying that productivity is more important than actual time spent in the office. Therefore output should be judged by such.
It is just more question of equity since the corporate environement in CH wants to treat everyone on same level. There are underperformers and ambitious lot that runs the show (movers and shakers). It is just more the matter of union at the workplace. How do your peers feel about one another? When one has to occupy time at the desk and manifest his presence to senior management to be noticed that he is trying his best. On the other hand there are individuals who are never there but still manage to bring about the expected results.

My general observation is that expats who come here are more experienced and can do the good job from home office, while local employees follow the ritual to emphasize the presence at the office to prove their productivity.
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If they are doing the same job then maybe... but if so they could work at home also...

If you are paid to do a job and you are doing it well then hours shouldn't be an issue.

If you are paid by the hour then who is going to know that you can actually do 8 hours work in 30 mins of Fridays when you are not in the office
Good question. It is all actually so-called "built-on-trust" environment in which employee is accountable for logging the working hours in on monthly basis. In total 42-43 hours per week is observed but not very rigorously though. One can finish in 30min at home office one's 8 hour standard office day, yet without major distraction and be more productive as well. Who will be able to tell you are at wrong?
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It goes without saying that productivity is more important than actual time spent in the office. Therefore output should be judged by such.
It is just more question of equity since the corporate environement in CH wants to treat everyone on same level. There are underperformers and ambitious lot that runs the show (movers and shakers). It is just more the matter of union at the workplace. How do your peers feel about one another? When one has to occupy time at the desk and manifest his presence to senior management to be noticed that he is trying his best. On the other hand there are individuals who are never there but still manage to bring about the expected results.

My general observation is that expats who come here are more experienced and can do the good job from home office, while local employees follow the ritual to emphasize the presence at the office to prove their productivity.
i've seen different things in different workplaces. some employers are more modern and are concerned with outputs/results. others are rather backwards and only worry about the number of hours you have clocked.

i was really shocked to see that some companies have a clock in/clock out system for office jobs!
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Probably it's very familiar term to many expats who make use of such privilege offered by employer. For those who it isn't, it basically provides an option of working one day a week at home instead of at the office, which it usually falls on Fridays. I had chat with my mates in SA and they claim this kind of practice is seldom heard of in their respective places of employment. Btw: we are talking industrial jobs here. It would not be in place and rather chutzpah to ask stressed employer with already tight schedule who usually pushes for overtime instead.

It would be nice to hear your opinion on such facility. Use but not abuse some would point out. How is it viewed in Switzerland by your companies and workmates?
Depends on the employer really.

You get the old fashioned employers whose idea of staff management is to make sure people sit at their desks for x hours per day but they have no clue what the people are actually doing.

BTW I did not answer the poll because the questions seem to be biased against home office.

Or you have more modern employers who give their staff a list of deliverables & it is irrelevant where they do the work so long as they deliver.

I believe all the studies show more pros for home working/home office than cons, for example
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/...1telework.aspx
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Please don't mix up working from home and home office.

Home office is often a fixed day in the week that is used to extend the weekend.
Working from home is when you are actually doing something.
In my understanding "home office" is substitute to time spent in the office during working hours Mon - Fri. So still we talk about work during weekday without weekend being involved. If weekend were required to do the job, it would be called overtime then.
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