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I am thinking of resigning and not working my notice period. What could any employer do if you left the country?
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Old 28.01.2013, 12:52
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I am thinking of resigning and not working my notice period. What could any employer do if you left the country?
I guess technically you would owe them money, right? So I doubt they'd have the desire to chase you internationally for your salary - but you may not be allowed back into the country in future - not sure though

I won't make judgements about your pride, professionalism, integrity or ethics though - maybe something bad is going on. But if they fire you this afternoon without paying your contracted notice period, I assume that you wouldn't complain about that
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Re: Not working Notice

To be honest if they fired me a wouldn't give tow hoots. ¬s well I would jsu leave at the end of the month so they wouldnt have paid me for any work I hadn't done
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Old 28.01.2013, 13:06
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Re: Not working Notice

have you any vacation or sick time? hand in your notice and use the vacation and/or sick time to move on. Get a doctors note for the sickies.
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Old 28.01.2013, 13:10
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Re: Not working Notice

Talk to HR, you should be able to negotiate some sort of early exit. Its in nobody's interest for an unmotivated and potentially disruptive employee to work through their notice period.
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Old 28.01.2013, 13:12
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I'm sorry you are unhappy, I hope things work out for you. Good luck!
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Old 28.01.2013, 13:18
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To be honest if they fired me a wouldn't give tow hoots. ¬s well I would jsu leave at the end of the month so they wouldnt have paid me for any work I hadn't done
They can charge you for any losses due to breach of contract. If they have to take a contractor at double your salary you would be liable for the difference. Contracts work both ways, you expect to be paid at the end of the month, they expect you to turn up as you agreed.
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Old 28.01.2013, 14:05
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have you any vacation or sick time? hand in your notice and use the vacation and/or sick time to move on. Get a doctors note for the sickies.
The part about vacation, good advice. The part about fradulently claiming sick time and getting a doctor to join the ruse is bad advice.

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Talk to HR, you should be able to negotiate some sort of early exit. Its in nobody's interest for an unmotivated and potentially disruptive employee to work through their notice period.
Very good advice. If neither you nor the employer is happy, you should be able to come to an agreement.
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Old 28.01.2013, 14:32
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Re: Not working Notice

It is not "worth it", as another user here came back to CH after some years and was lamenting about having left the country with unpaid bills.

Negotiate with your boss and HR and tell them you want to leave asap.
You can also cite health reasons such as "burn out", etc.

Go peacefully and they will not come back to haunt you later on.
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Re: Not working Notice

Thanks for the advice everyone. I would like to thank people but I canít seem to work out how to do it. I have come to the conclusion for my own mental health that I would just be better going sick. I will keep on for another week or so but I wonder if they would chase me legally if I were back in the UK
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I would like to thank people but I canít seem to work out how to do it. I have come to the conclusion for my own mental health that I would just be better going sick. I will keep on for another week or so but I wonder if they would chase me legally if I were back in the UK
IN a case such as this, will there be issues that involve giving notice on your apartment? Or do you have a live-in job? Do you pay taxes and into a Swiss pension scheme? Can payout of that money be affected by leaving in undue haste? (I con't know, just wondering.)
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Old 29.01.2013, 06:20
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I would like to thank people but I canít seem to work out how to do it. I have come to the conclusion for my own mental health that I would just be better going sick. I will keep on for another week or so but I wonder if they would chase me legally if I were back in the UK
It depends on the level of financial loss (if any). They might be glad to see the back of you, who knows unless you ask the question?
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Old 29.01.2013, 07:18
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Re: Not working Notice

being sick in your notice period may mean that you notice period is extended. if you disappear, they will withhold your final pay packet(s).

man up, talk to the employer and do it properly. In the end, if they agree, they don't pay you the notice period in full but you don't work it.

do you want that reference?
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Old 29.01.2013, 07:58
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...I have come to the conclusion for my own mental health that I would just be better going sick.
This clarifies a lot. Your first post didn't have much info, so I just assumed you were bored or something. It's obviously more serious than that.

As far as I know, you can get paid medical leave from work for mental health/burnout issues and it is perfectly legit. You just need the doctor's certificate. This would allow you some time to step away and get counseling, medication if necessary, etc. to help deal with the issues. I am not sure how long you can take, but someone else on EF will have that answer.

1SIX1 and Biff have valid points. If you're sick during your notice period, it generally just extends until you are well. Running away to the UK could get you more problems than you have right now. The system here isn't perfect but there are ways to get help with burnout. Please take care of yourself and don't damage your future work chances by making a rash decision.
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Old 29.01.2013, 11:06
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Re: Not working Notice

This is a difficult question.

Many years ago, I was given notice - fired - from my job. I was managing director of the company at the time, and my partners joined forces to push me out. Over night, I was stripped of all authority, but I still had to continue working on customer projects. The result was a pissed off customer, because I was no longer motivated to deliver good results (obviously). It was a stupid decision - I asked my partners to put me on garden leave for the 3 months, but they refused. As a result, they ended up losing a customer, because of the poor quality that I delivered.

I'm not proud of this - I would have much preferred that it had turned out differently. (In my perfect world scenario, I would have taken the customer with me. In that case, they would have lost and I won. As it turned out, everyone lost).

As many have posted here: First, see how much vacation and overtime you can claim. Then talk to your company about a garden leave. If they refuse, you don't have many legal or ethical alternatives, so you have to consider other options. Either "working to contract" (doing what needs to be done to fulfill your contract, nothing more) or talking to your doctor about putting you on a medical leave.
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Old 29.01.2013, 11:13
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I would have much preferred that it had turned out differently. (In my perfect world scenario, I would have taken the customer with me. In that case, they would have lost and I won. As it turned out, everyone lost).
Piss of the customer due to unprofessional behaviour & be surprised that the customer does not follow you...........
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Old 29.01.2013, 11:25
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Piss of the customer due to unprofessional behaviour & be surprised that the customer does not follow you...........
I'm not proud of that fact. It was a crappy time for me, and I couldn't separate the shell shock of the situation from the work I was doing for the customer. I hope I never have to go through something like that again, but I would hope that today (10 years later), I would be able to handle the situation differently / better.
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Old 29.01.2013, 11:39
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Re: Not working Notice

See a doctor. If he thinks you need time off due to stress, he will give you a note. With that note, go to HR and tell them you want to quit and go back to the UK.

I had a chap working for me once, in one of the big international companies, whose work quality was declining and seemed to be suffering from stress. We talked about it, I brought in HR, and we agreed to send him to the company doctor, who then signed him off for three weeks with stress - and scheduled some scans and tests, just to be safe.

Turned out he had a brain tumour. If he hadn't gone through the proper route, and had instead just slunk off, he would have died a few months later. If you are really suffering mentally, go talk to HR. Their primary duty of care is to protect the company, but that does sometimes include looking after employees.
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As many have posted here: First, see how much vacation and overtime you can claim. Then talk to your company about a garden leave.
Why would they pay him to not work? He wants to quit. I can see them letting him go and both sides waiving the notice but rocking up and saying I want to leave but you should still pay me seems very cheeky. This is a lot different than your scenario.

I take "it would be best for my mental health" as I just don`t really like my job that much. I`ve been there, resigned, had 3 months notice and was asked to work it and I did. The first 2 weeks I felt relief having resigned, the last 2 weeks I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, the period in the middle down right sucked, but I tried to do the best work I could.

Talk to HR, hopefully your employer will feel they can do without you and they let you go. If not work out your notice period. How long is it really in the span of a career?
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I had a chap working for me once, in one of the big international companies, whose work quality was declining and seemed to be suffering from stress. We talked about it, I brought in HR, and we agreed to send him to the company doctor, who then signed him off for three weeks with stress - and scheduled some scans and tests, just to be safe.

Turned out he had a brain tumour. If he hadn't gone through the proper route, and had instead just slunk off, he would have died a few months later. If you are really suffering mentally, go talk to HR. Their primary duty of care is to protect the company, but that does sometimes include looking after employees.
Sounds like you are decent boss to work for
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