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Both companies have their plus and minus attributes. It depends on your personality.
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Re: working for Roche or Novartis

Hi guys,

I´d like revive a bit of an old topic with my questions on salary ranges.
What is the approx. range for 5y experience project manager at Novartis?

Is 120000 CHF basic salary good? What is the normal percentage bonus on top?
Any additional perks or how does a total target cash relates to basic salary for 4-5 years experience in corporate functions (HR)?

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Hi guys,

I´d like revive a bit of an old topic with my questions on salary ranges.
What is the approx. range for 5y experience project manager at Novartis?

Is 120000 CHF basic salary good? What is the normal percentage bonus on top?
Any additional perks or how does a total target cash relates to basic salary for 4-5 years experience in corporate functions (HR)?

Best regards and thanks,
M
i think it depends on your skillset, whom you have worked for and what the new position requires. translated i could be calling myself a facility manager and just took care of a broomstick chamber at my local school or i have managed the trumptower in new york city. hence the base on negotiating depends where you are coming from and where you will go then.
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Re: working for Roche or Novartis

Hi Flow,

Thanks for your feedback. I guess you are right but its a general truth that it depends case to case. If I come from another equally big pharma company and have good education plus experience in 3 other industries, answer is still depends on my negotiating skills etc.

But, I ask as I have no idea about the swiss market. In Germany my basic salary is 70% of my total target cash. in 30% on top comes bonus and 13 salary. There must be a general rule as how much bonus is paid for expert non-managerial positions etc.

Any feedback or experience is welcome
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Re: working for Roche or Novartis

ok, that rule applies here, too, 70/30. i have 80/20 but i am not working at pharma comp.
but looking at 120k and with 30% topup you aim for over 150k
which sounds a bit much to me for 5yrs only. i could be wrong...
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But, I ask as I have no idea about the swiss market. In Germany my basic salary is 70% of my total target cash. in 30% on top comes bonus and 13 salary. There must be a general rule as how much bonus is paid for expert non-managerial positions etc.
No, that's not in the ballpark, I'm afraid. The base level bonus percentage is set at 9% for lower, 14% for higher/senior, professional levels, say a programmer with <5 years most likely the former, a programming team leader the latter.

EDIT: This is assuming that there's no 13th salary, as that was phased out some years ago, whereas I see that you were counting that in your "30% on top" calculation.

This is then subject to a multiplier based on a complex set of individual, group, and corporate goals and personal performance management which in theory could give a range of 0 to 200% of that amount, but in practice it's rarely outside the 50-150% range.
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ok, that rule applies here, too, 70/30. i have 80/20 but i am not working at pharma comp.
So OTE for a junior programmer would be in the order of 90/10 split, i.e. base salary+9%.
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but looking at 120k and with 30% topup you aim for over 150k
which sounds a bit much to me for 5yrs only. i could be wrong...
No idea what starting salaries are like now, but 10-15 years ago a base level of 120k wasn't unusual for a programmer role. Could well be lower than that now due to exchange rate adjustments and resultant falling expectations.
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but did he say progger? project manager can be anything? i think he said corporate hr?
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