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I plan to hire a nanny for one day a week for a few hours. What do I need to do legally? I don't want anything to be illegal. She is foreign and speaks english. What rate per an hour should I charge?

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Make sure she has a permit and also dont employ her for more than 8 hours per week.
If you can charge her 1Fr per hour well done. But I suspect you did not mean that so...
The rate you pay her depends on what you expect her to do and where you live. Reasonably you can get someone for 25Fr per hour.
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Make sure she has a permit and also dont employ her for more than 8 hours per week.
Why not employ her more than 8 hours per week?
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hi to everyone I have one question I have an offer about au-pair of 2 children in Laussane and I wil start after 2 weeks I talked with the family and they give me a salary of 250CFr per week-in english speaking family -is it a good -they provide me a bedroom with bathroom.What is necessary to live and work in Switzerland as au-pair.The family required me a reference -I sent it,other documenys that to be a legal citizen of period 18months?Please give me a advice,What you think about it? thanks.Please more quickly response will be better because I have not any time
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hi to everyone I have one question I have an offer about au-pair of 2 children in Laussane and I wil start after 2 weeks I talked with the family and they give me a salary of 250CFr per week-in english speaking family -is it a good -they provide me a bedroom with bathroom.What is necessary to live and work in Switzerland as au-pair.The family required me a reference -I sent it,other documenys that to be a legal citizen of period 18months?Please give me a advice,What you think about it? thanks.Please more quickly response will be better because I have not any time
There is a lot of info on the forum that will probably help you with some of it, and probably some info that you never thought of.

For a salary of CHF 250 per week, only you know if that is sufficient.You seem to be living in, in which case your living expenses will mainly be taken care of. It also depends how many hours you are working for that money: 10 hours would give you a decent salary or if you are putting in a 40 hour week you have to ask yourself if working for just over CHF 6 per hour is fair to you.

Not sure what you mean by documents to become a citizen after 18 months. To work here your employer will have to apply for a permit for you and you will have to register yourself with the authorities.

Make sure your employer will be taking all the stoppages out and you have access to accident and health insurance, pension, etc. A lot of employers also send their au pairs on language courses, too, so ask them about it.

It's essential you get everything right from the beginning - having read horror stories on here from nannies / au pairs who have run into problems because their employers were trying to cut corners, it's just not worth leaving anything to chance.

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I am not sure how updated this site is, but the info is very nicely laid out, have a good read, especially about the language school, amount of hours (the pay looks good, by the way), and health insurance, pension. I know from friends who were aupairing here, there might be some sticky points, so get everything in writing (what days you want free, holidays, pay, watch out for "will be deducted from your pay" and for what reasons", what your duties should be, etc.).

Also, see if there is a group in Lausanne of girls doing the same job, either through meetup.com, could be already existing, or, which might be handier, organize a meet up here through the social events subforum. We have had a few threads about newcoming Lausanne aupairs, etc.

We have a really nice aupair group meet ups in Nyon, it is organized through West Lake Church, girls meet up, share their experiences, get advice and, most of all, have fabulous trips abroad and within CH organized. West Lake in Lausanne might have the same thing going on, but Nyon is 20min away from Lausanne, too.
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thanks much so...I am a new in this forum and I will be in Switzerland for first time so.. I"d like to know more...I read almost everything and please correct me if I make a mistake but my future employer have to register as an au-pair in their family,isn"t it?40 hours per week with 2 days off, 3 weeks pay holiday-I think it is a good for first time to me but is it a good for the standart of Switzerland?thanks
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thanks much so...I am a new in this forum and I will be in Switzerland for first time so.. I"d like to know more...I read almost everything and please correct me if I make a mistake but my future employer have to register as an au-pair in their family,isn"t it?40 hours per week with 2 days off, 3 weeks pay holiday-I think it is a good for first time to me but is it a good for the standart of Switzerland?thanks
I think the limit is 25-30hrs, but you do not know, as at your local Commune when you get here. Please, browse through the forum, the requirements have been posted, just put "aupair" in the search window upper right hand corner. You shouldn't be requested to do heavy housework, they have to register you, chip in with language classes, get your insuarance (part of it, it may be deducted from your salary, but not sure), etc. Read up, so you don't find yourself in a trouble later. The salary does not sound bad, if you have a decent time off and they ask you for a few hours extra, you see how it will go. Good luck settling in.
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many thanks if I have another questions I will post it here.
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Hello! I’m a newbie but already spent some quite some time reading a lot of useful information. Thanks to all!

I might get a job in Geneva later this year. Therefore, trying to get as much information as possible about Switzerland and Geneva in particular. A lot of things are now much clearer thanks to this forum, however, one subject remains kind of difficult to understand. Hopefully I can post my question here and I’d appreciate your feedback.

I’m a single mother of a two-year child. Obviously, there are crèches/ day care centers available as well as maman de jours (although it seems that it is very difficult to get enrolled anyway). However, in my situation the best option seems to be a nanny live-in. Having read a number of threads on the cost of nanny I understand the experienced one may cost from 25-30 per hour.

Assuming I need to leave home at 7-7:30 am and come back around 6 pm earliest, here goes minimum of 11 hours per day. Multiply by number of days per week and weeks per year and I come up with an incredible amount of money (that’s before any obligatory payments that I need to make in order to legally employ a nanny). Is my understanding correct or I made a serious mistake in the very beginning somewhere? If this is correct, than how on earth some of you that use the nanny services manage to survive??

Can anyone having a nanny provide some more insight?

A found a number of statements that the cost of a nanny per month is somewhere between 3500-5000 f per month. What is this, net? Gross? If net, what are the extra charges? How does this tally with the monthly rate starting from 25 f per hour?

Basically, the monthly income picture looks very gloomy: accommodation + nanny = either a negative or a minor surplus
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Re: The Au Pair/Nanny employment thread (no ads!)

Well, I hope you have a good salary, it is true that daycare isn't cheap.

In my life/experience, I coped by:
- hiring au-pairs (not nannies); 35 hrs/week flexible, 800-1000chf/month. You can look for swiss ones, but they are very young, or look in websites (greataupairs is the one I used) for EU ones, they can be in their 20ies and more independent. For this you need to have an extra room in your apartment (as they are live-in), but it does give you a great flexibility
- having your kid in day-care 1/2 day (so you drop them off in the morning, and the au-pair pick them up in the afternoon)
- you get a full day of work, the odd night out (we all need it) and some flexibility in case of professional travelling

Au-pairs are a nice way. It will also provide you some help in the home (I called mines my "temporary spouses" for a laugh), a friend and expose your child to a foreign language (or help retain your home one!). As you have an only-child, there is less work than with a whole family; and if you live in a nice area, it isn't hard to find a nice au-pair who loves the young life in the city, and can provide efficient help. I had great experiences (and of course, a couple of not-so-good ones, there is no magic).

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Thanks, lilith. Of course, I look at au-pairs as well. But as I understand they have no experience in child care (just nice young girls that are coming for cultural exprience). In my case I should be looking for someone who can take the full responsibility (especially in terms of safety) of my only child whilst noone is at home.

Then, in terms of cost it is not far away from nanny. Child care center as I understand is 2000-2500 + au-pair (1000) = 3500.
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There is no way I would employ a nanny for just one child, it is way too expensive unless you are loaded. A nanny becomes economical only with 2 kids. The price you quote below for the child care centre is what I was paying a for a full-time place per month so if you do only half days it would be less.

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Thanks, lilith. Of course, I look at au-pairs as well. But as I understand they have no experience in child care (just nice young girls that are coming for cultural exprience). In my case I should be looking for someone who can take the full responsibility (especially in terms of safety) of my only child whilst noone is at home.

Then, in terms of cost it is not far away from nanny. Child care center as I understand is 2000-2500 + au-pair (1000) = 3500.
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The price you quote below for the child care centre is what I was paying a for a full-time place per month so if you do only half days it would be less.
Thanks. Do you mind sharing what might be the cost for half a day?
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Re: The Au Pair/Nanny employment thread (no ads!)

About 5 yrs ago, I was paying 700.- per month, for lunch every day, plus wednesday afternoon - but that was daycare for a 7 yrs old.

Note that places in Crèche are hard to get; you may have to put your name on a waiting list. A good question to your future employer would be: do they have an employer's crèche? a good article is here - http://www.illustre.ch/creche-enfant...se_45230_.html

Note that in Geneve itself it may be more difficult than elsewhere; in smaller villages, you may find better maman-de-jour and support network.

I assume you can speak french? that would be helpful...

And I'll add here, going in the direction of PrincessDuck below: some has a wonderful experience. One of my best was actually a british nanny by training, who felt wanted some international experience first. Lovely girl.

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But as I understand they have no experience in child care (just nice young girls that are coming for cultural exprience).
You shouldn't say this as a general thing regarding the au pairs.
I'm an au pair here and I have over 2yrs of experience as a Nanny in my home country. The last time I had 2 yrs old triplets and worked with them for 18 months. And when I was au pair for the first time, 5 yrs ago, I had previous experience with my cousins or neighbours children.
So not ALL the au pairs are ''just some foreign girls without experience''.

You have to search on au pair websites and you will see that there are looots of girls with experience of any kind: nanny, previous au pair experience, kindergarden teacher or assistent etc and a lot have first aid training.
So, you just have to search.
If you want I can give you some good websites with au pairs.
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Note that places in Crèche are hard to get; you may have to put your name on a waiting list.

Thanks. That's why I was thinking about a nanny in the first place. I will have to start working almost immediately upon arrival and given that I’m alone the task seems to be even tougher. No, my potential employer does not have a crèche and I don’t speak French. But I will have to manage...

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If you want I can give you some good websites with au pairs.

Thanks and apologies. I didn’t want to upset anyone with my statements. That was my understanding. Yes, please, some site will be useful, unless they are different to the ones posted in this thread, which I have already noted.
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Just a quick post. I will edit my post later.


www.newaupair.com
www.findaupair.com
www.aupair4you.eu
www.eaupair.com
www.aupairsearch.com
www.4familycare.com
www.aupairjobs.org
www.aupairconnect.com
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I can't edit my post anymore.
I just wanted to say that in my opinion a good website has to be up to date. This is very important. Also, they have to contain lots of info and tips for au pairs and for families. Third: they have to have a good ''search'' function: a certain age of the au pairs, driver, non smoker etc.
And the websites that are on the first pages of this subject: www.greataupair.com and www.aupairworld.net are the best.
Although my host mother found me on a website I didn't wanted to register in the first place but then I said: if I have more profiles, I have more chances of finding the right family. And I was right.
The websites I gave you are up to date but of course not all the au pairs go online every day.
So, if you decide to have an au pair, then having your profile on more websites is useful.
You can have a search also, on google and you will see lots of au pair websites but you have to decide which ones you want to register with.
Another good website that I read every week is: www.aupairmom.com. Here you find very useful information about how is to live with an au pair as well as handbooks (rules for the au pair).
If you have Facebook, you can join the ''Au pairs in Zurich'' and there you will find some au pairs searching for host family. Some of them they are here already but for various reasons they are searching for a new host family.
PS: I know a Romanian au pair that is looking for another position. She lives in Valangin (Neuchatel) and she has been au pair for a family with 2 girls, for almost 4 months. She will stay there until August because the host mother won't be working anymore so she doesn't the au pair. She has experience with children. If you want I can give you her details.

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Hi

Sorry if its already in the thread but I am a newbie!

I am looking to become a live-out au pair/nanny. How much is a reasonable amount to charge per hour? per week? per month?

A lot of people say salary is negotiable but I dont know how I can negotiate when I dont know what the average is!

Please help.

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Hello! I’m a newbie but already spent some quite some time reading a lot of useful information. Thanks to all!

I might get a job in Geneva later this year. Therefore, trying to get as much information as possible about Switzerland and Geneva in particular. A lot of things are now much clearer thanks to this forum, however, one subject remains kind of difficult to understand. Hopefully I can post my question here and I’d appreciate your feedback.

I’m a single mother of a two-year child. Obviously, there are crèches/ day care centers available as well as maman de jours (although it seems that it is very difficult to get enrolled anyway). However, in my situation the best option seems to be a nanny live-in. Having read a number of threads on the cost of nanny I understand the experienced one may cost from 25-30 per hour.

Assuming I need to leave home at 7-7:30 am and come back around 6 pm earliest, here goes minimum of 11 hours per day. Multiply by number of days per week and weeks per year and I come up with an incredible amount of money (that’s before any obligatory payments that I need to make in order to legally employ a nanny). Is my understanding correct or I made a serious mistake in the very beginning somewhere? If this is correct, than how on earth some of you that use the nanny services manage to survive??

Can anyone having a nanny provide some more insight?

A found a number of statements that the cost of a nanny per month is somewhere between 3500-5000 f per month. What is this, net? Gross? If net, what are the extra charges? How does this tally with the monthly rate starting from 25 f per hour?

Basically, the monthly income picture looks very gloomy: accommodation + nanny = either a negative or a minor surplus
Hi there,

I understand that the amount you mentioned sounds huge and it is, but don't forget that THAT'S SOMEONE'S SALARY! would you work for 11 hours a day on less than that here in Switzerland? Plus remember that gross 4000 CHF per month in Switzerland is actually not a very good salary when you consider what other jobs can get you.
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