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Re: Long term Unemployment

Richdog is obviously a troll and not very helpful so don't waste time replying to him.
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My problem is lack of experience outside academia....working at a hotel is not going to help me land a job in Pharma. But I am sure it would make the Swiss happy to have another non-EU Dr driving their taxi or serving them drinks :P
With your attitude, you're going to find it very difficult. Fine you got a PhD or whatever, but as you are finding out, this is only a small piece of the puzzle.

As far as i see you don't have much choice and to make statement like this

4. Many super evil companies with terrible environmental records are based here.

Is certainly not going to help.

With your high powered specialist PHD, it's not going to be too diffcult to identify you if HR people read this forum and you happen to appy for a job.

Switzerland is very small and incestuous.....
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Thank you everyone for the helpful suggestions and support. I will keep working on the local lingo (French and German) now that I have more free time. But fingers crossed something will come up soon here or in the States.

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I read a very interesting article in Fortune this week.

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My problem is lack of experience outside academia....working at a hotel is not going to help me land a job in Pharma. But I am sure it would make the Swiss happy to have another non-EU Dr driving their taxi or serving them drinks :P
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My wife is a modern and capable woman and does not need to be supported by a man

BTW I have 2 words for you but it would be too rude to write them here! I did not choose to be unemployed and I have worked my ass off to find a job. I think your user name says it all really.
Then count yourself lucky that she does/can. Because if she couldn't you would be expected by RAV to work in an hotel, etc, so you could earn money! If you can find work in your field that's fine with them, but their main aim is to get you into work - no matter how "suitable" to your qualification or experience it may be.

And if you're that desperate to have a paying job I find it strange that you haven't looked for such work. There's nothing to stop you resigning later if you find a position where your PhD can be used, but honestly, saying you can't find a paying job period is a little bit much.
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Old 08.01.2015, 19:20
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Then count yourself lucky that she does/can. Because if she couldn't you would be expected by RAV to work in an hotel, etc, so you could earn money! If you can find work in your field that's fine with them, but their main aim is to get you into work - no matter how "suitable" to your qualification or experience it may be.

And if you're that desperate to have a paying job I find it strange that you haven't looked for such work. There's nothing to stop you resigning later if you find a position where your PhD can be used, but honestly, saying you can't find a paying job period is a little bit much.
She does not pay a cent for me and I am not with RAV. My finances are my own business. Again you assume that McDonalds would hire me without having fast food experience and 3 languages :P
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I also know many people that had no problem; but often it is a case of having the right research topic, inside connections or dumb luck.

I have about 20 different CV templates. I have sought professional advice and tailor a CV and cover letter for every job. It is hard to stand out when there are 300 applicants for every job. Publications are also meaningless and I have never been asked about what I did during my PhD...only what I can do for the company
You may find this very surprising- but I know many firms in the UK and all over, who very rarely take on PhD's- because too many can be, full of big words and hot air, but no common sense and/or oooomph. In the interview- they would want this to be clearly demonstrated not to be the case and that the person has other skills apart from academia.

If this thread is anything to go by, I'd say they have a (serious) point.

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Richdog is obviously a troll and not very helpful so don't waste time replying to him.
Yes, God forbid anyone dare suggest in your publically viewable forum thread that during the last 2 years it may have been a good idea to look for temporary or basic employment and income outside of the niche field that you are your fellow peers struggle to find work in. That would just be silly wouldn't it?

Anyway good luck with the hunt.
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Old 08.01.2015, 19:34
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Recommend closing this thread as it is no longer helpful.
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Sorry, but have to agree- you are not helping yourself, at all and have managed to prove your attitude may well be the problem.
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Sorry, but have to agree- you are not helping yourself, at all and have managed to prove your attitude may well be the problem.
Sorry trolls I have moved on. Bye
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She does not pay a cent for me and I am not with RAV. My finances are my own business. Again you assume that McDonalds would hire me without having fast food experience and 3 languages :P
That's the problem, NOBODY wants to pay a cent for you !

With your attitude, not a hope in hell of finding work here neither cleaning tables not head honcho PHD superstar!
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Sorry trolls I have moved on. Bye
I hope you realise that if on the off chance any employer was reading this thinking to give a PhD student a chance... you've probably blown it by throwing your toys out of the pram like a 12-year old.
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