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I was wondering if anyone knows what are the consequences if someone decides not to be covered by RAV after initially registering. Say, someone realises he/she needs a break and not to start with another job right away, and therefore doesn't want to go through the whole process of reporting of job applications, or being potentially forced to take a job which is not what that person wants. What is the best way of doing it? I assume they'd prefer having one person less to give money to, but you never know...
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Old 20.01.2015, 23:35
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Re: canceling RAV

Just tell them, or don't do anything, they won't give you any money or care.
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Just tell them, or don't do anything, they won't give you any money or care.
...but they may not appreciate at all if you just don't show up anymore and give no info.

The systems works thanks to the contribution/commitment of all IMO.

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Old 21.01.2015, 00:00
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...but they may not appreciate at all if you just don't show up anymore and give no info.

The systems works thanks to the contribution/commitment of all IMO.

My 2 cents.
How does it matter if you don't want any money? They will just write a letter / email wishing you good luck in the future, I got one of those emails
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Old 21.01.2015, 00:27
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Re: canceling RAV

totally fine if you have someone who can pay your bills...
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Old 21.01.2015, 10:19
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Re: canceling RAV

Why would they care?

Send an e-mail or call them to inform them you're not interested in claiming benefits, but will take a break instead and not look for a new job - done.
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Old 21.01.2015, 10:34
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Re: canceling RAV

When you say "take a break", do you mean until your next job, or ar you anticipating re-applying for RAV after a while?

I'm not sure, but I'd expect you to have some issues when you first sign back on. RAV expect you to apply for jobs during your notice period while still working, so I'd imagine that they'd want you to be doing something similar in your break period. I can't see them just paying you when you feel like 'working' for them again.

I've no real idea what they'd do, but it seems probable that they'd delay your payments. So I guess if you build this delay into your plans, or start applying for jobs some time before you restart then that'll minimise any problems.

RAV payments are an average of your last x months salary. Does this include months of zero pay? If it does then any payment you'll get after re-applying might be significantly decreased.
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When you say "take a break", do you mean until your next job, or ar you anticipating re-applying for RAV after a while?
I meant until my next job...I figure it wouldn't be possible to re-apply for the same round of unemployment.

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How does it matter if you don't want any money? They will just write a letter / email wishing you good luck in the future, I got one of those emails
Does this mean that you quit RAV after some time, or that you got the letter after you found a job?

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Does this mean that you quit RAV after some time, or that you got the letter after you found a job?
I got email because I could not be arsed to show up anymore

Sehr geehrter Herr XXXXXXX

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sie per xxxxxxx von der Arbeitsvermittlung im RAV abgemeldet.

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Old 21.01.2015, 16:42
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Re: canceling RAV

I simply didn't register when I wanted to have a break after losing my job, and signed on six months later.

However, if you signed on already, *tell them* you want to take a sabbatical and don't want to claim.

I missed a couple of appointments in a row and they sent me letter after letter full of legal jargon that I didn't understand quoting laws and regulations and expecting replies, the bureaucrats take it all very seriously and will make it a pain for you to get payments started again. Ignoring them is not the way to go.
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Re: canceling RAV

A friend of mine is currently out of work and has just started the RAV process.
I couldn't believe that here in Zürich you even have to take (and pass) a series of online tests to prove that you really understand what RAV is there for and how the whole process works. This is before you can even submit your claim. I have found that when dealing with all Swiss burocracy its better to keep them informed about everything by email or letter so there is a record of it. There's a good chance that if you don't inform them, they will use it as a way to avoid paying you in the future.
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Re: canceling RAV

Another thing; if you think language lessons will improve your chances of a job, then mention it to your advisor. They will send you on a German course at K5 in Gundeli and put you through the Goethe exam(s).

While you are on the course, you don't need to do the job applications and fprm filling (though you must attend the course every day - they take a register and report to the RAV if you are missing). If I remember rightly, you get a slight "pay" rise as a lunch allowance.
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A friend of mine is currently out of work and has just started the RAV process.
I couldn't believe that here in Zürich you even have to take (and pass) a series of online tests to prove that you really understand what RAV is there for and how the whole process works. This is before you can even submit your claim. I have found that when dealing with all Swiss burocracy its better to keep them informed about everything by email or letter so there is a record of it. There's a good chance that if you don't inform them, they will use it as a way to avoid paying you in the future.
Those "tests" take about 20 minutes to do and they are in English. I found them very useful with information about vacation days from RAV etc.

And yep, e-mailing is the best way to communicate with RAV, always make sure to have a paper trail.

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Another thing; if you think language lessons will improve your chances of a job, then mention it to your advisor. They will send you on a German course at K5 in Gundeli and put you through the Goethe exam(s).

While you are on the course, you don't need to do the job applications and fprm filling (though you must attend the course every day - they take a register and report to the RAV if you are missing). If I remember rightly, you get a slight "pay" rise as a lunch allowance.
Not true, you need to do your job searches even when on a course. The idea is to get you of RAV asap, not to help you learn german while getting paid for it.
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Old 22.01.2015, 16:06
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Not true, you need to do your job searches even when on a course. The idea is to get you of RAV asap, not to help you learn german while getting paid for it.
The OP is in Basel. In Basel, you don't need to make any job applications while you are on the German course provided by RAV. You are free to do so of course, but they are not obligatory.
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