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I scheduled a third interview at a company (a "big one") in the Bern area. On the first interview I had weeks ago, I had told to HR my salary requirements were in the range of 60-70000 CHF. It is an entry level position but I have 1.5 years of experience in the field. I checked on payscale and I got I should earn in the range of 70-90000 CHF, instead of 60-70k CHF. Does it make sense the payscale's range in your opinion? I am not familiar with swiss salary and that range looks a huge amount of money. Let's suppose the 70-90k makes sense, any advice on dealing with hr with regards to my "new" salary requirements if everything will go smoothly? I am afraid they will remember my first range and I do not want to give a bad impression.

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Old 19.02.2015, 10:27
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Re: Salary expectations

It depends on what you do and your education background. CHF 60-70 is a normal salary for an administrative position with a few years' experience (no higher education).
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Old 19.02.2015, 10:34
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Re: Salary expectations

If I'm ever offered a range, I always choose the top. You should use the fact that your research shows that job should be 70-90 a leverage.

Salaries are negotiable, like most things in life. You don't have to accept the first offer.
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Old 19.02.2015, 10:50
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It depends on what you do and your education background. CHF 60-70 is a normal salary for an administrative position with a few years' experience (no higher education).
This is the salary for an admin position with experience. It's also that salary range for some entry level positions with higher qualifications. Entry level is the key word here. 60-70 is not unreasonable for an entry level position.

Of course this is just a generic answer as we don't know what field this entry level position is in.

Plus, it seem it was he that suggested that salary. I'm sure the company, if it's a big one, will have a range for the position and will not necessarily just give him a lower salary because he said that. If they do offer the low end he can always discuss his research and ask what the normal range for the position is.
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Re: Salary expectations

I think that your range of 70-90000 CHF is a reasonable one in Switzerland, especially if the company is a large one.
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I think that your range of 70-90000 CHF is a reasonable one in Switzerland, especially if the company is a large one.
Beats me how anyone can say it's a reasonable salary range when we have no clue what the job is or in what industry the job is. It's just impossible to say.

But in any case, it would be entirely reasonable to attempt to negotiate on salary if one is offered the role.
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Hi!!

I scheduled a third interview at a company (a "big one") in the Bern area. On the first interview I had weeks ago, I had told to HR my salary requirements were in the range of 60-70000 CHF. It is an entry level position but I have 1.5 years of experience in the field. I checked on payscale and I got I should earn in the range of 70-90000 CHF, instead of 60-70k CHF. Does it make sense the payscale's range in your opinion? I am not familiar with swiss salary and that range looks a huge amount of money. Let's suppose the 70-90k makes sense, any advice on dealing with hr with regards to my "new" salary requirements if everything will go smoothly? I am afraid they will remember my first range and I do not want to give a bad impression.

Thank you,
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Unfortunately you did a very basic mistake. When it comes to negotiate a salary, first of all you need to define beforehand at least your ASKING salary and your MINIMUM acceptable salary, which should be secret. These figures should be based on a salary research, interviews, etc.


As mentioned by another member above, if you know the usual salary range for the function/industry/region, you should always ask the top of that range, not even mentioning the minimum.
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Thank you, I have studied 5 five at the university (bachelor+master). I am afraid not to ask the salary in the higer range I got from payscale, but my concern is due to the fact that I told them in the past another range. Anyway, I hope that if 70-90 is reasonable, we will talk also about it!

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I forgot, we did negotiate basically nothing so far...they just told me on the first interview how much I would like to earn, no negotiations at all. I did not expect that kind of question on a first interview onestly....

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Old 19.02.2015, 16:31
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http://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/portal/e.../salarium.html
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Old 19.02.2015, 17:07
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Re: Salary expectations

well, they can give you 70k which falls in both ranges. problem solved.
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Old 19.02.2015, 17:13
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Re: Salary expectations

Low salary expectations scare away worthwhile employers just like anything else. And what I said about the admin positions is defo true for ZH and ZG, no idea about Romandie.
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Re: Salary expectations

I guess you need to think of the different ways they might approach this topic in the next interview and think of answers or responses to all of them.
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Re: Salary expectations

Great, thank you for the valuable advice....I hope everything is going to be fine!!
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Re: Salary expectations

We still don't know what your job would be. Also, a university degree may or may not be relevant for the job and/or it may be of more or less value, depending on where it's from.

1.5 years experience is still entry-level. Yes, not complete newcomer, but certainly not 'experienced', even less so in a big company (for us - large MNC - everything up to 5 years of relevant work experience - excluding internships, btw - is entry-level).

90k strikes me as too high for someone with only 1.5 years of experience, and that's true for pretty much all professions, with a very small number of exceptions.

60-70k is reasonable for most jobs in most companies (though not all!) on the estimated level and for the estimated responsibility you outlined here
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Re: Salary expectations

The degree is needed! Anyway I think something around 70k would be perfect, I cannot pretend more, just shut up, work and learn learn learn
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Re: Salary expectations

I started with below average salary in my company. But since it was my first job in Switzerland it did not matter to me much. Within 2 years I have got salary hikes and now my new salary is in a good range. I think even if you feel that's it's not very good then just start with whatever you are getting right now (although don't accept a big difference) and once you will gain some experience then you can certainly look for more options if you don't get sufficient salary hikes. All the best!
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Re: Salary expectations

One other thought. For non-EU folks the salary must be high enough to convince the labour authorities to grant one a work permit.
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