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Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Hi there, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. My boss has a chalet in Gstaad and we need to find new staff to manage it for them. What websites would you recommend advertising household staff on? Is there a Swiss equivalent to Gumtree etc? I am not having much luck on the internet! Thank you so much!
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Your boss is paying you for this and you want us to do it for you ?

How much you proposing to pay, may be a contribution to an EF fund would assisit our thinking
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Hi there, I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. My boss has a chalet in Gstaad and we need to find new staff to manage it for them. What websites would you recommend advertising household staff on? Is there a Swiss equivalent to Gumtree etc? I am not having much luck on the internet! Thank you so much!
It is customary throughout the Alps to recruit staff by throwing a silver schilling into the bottom of the glass of those deemed fit for work (by virtue of their physical prowess, good looks, hair colour - but never their intelligence, as intelligent staff are always a liability). When the victim applicant drains the glass, he or she is considered to have accepted the contract and may be taken back to the chalet for retraining without delay.

The training process involves being locked in the cellar and listening to Landler music 24 hours a day until the spirit is broken and the subject becomes willing to do whatever is demanded of him/her. This is known as the "Austrian training" method.

I hope this helps. Malleable employees are hard to find in the open market, so it's always better to create one's own, don't you think?
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Unless this is one of the more modest Gstaad Chalets, I imagine you'll be looking to fill the following positions:

Head Butler and personnel
Estate manager
Kitchen Chef and personnel
Governess (especially if there are children)
Master of service
Gardner / Groundsman
Gamekeeper / Marder catcher
Chauffeur
Valet

It is usual to allow the Kitchen Chef to recruit his/her own staff, and it may be that you can dispense with the services of a permanent gardener/groundsman, in favour of outsourcing this activity to one of the many firms which operate in this area. Organising this would be a task for the Estate Manager.
Beware of false economies in the selection of the Marder catcher. The consequences of poor choice here can be many SFr 100K per year in vehicle repair costs.

I can offer no specific recommendation, but you can approach one of these agents found under the keywords "haushaltspersonal vermittlung schweiz", examples of which appear below:


http://www.hauspersonal.ch/CMS/de-CH...=351&P1=1&lg=1

http://www.hauspersonal-schweiz.ch/h...l_schweiz.html

If you chose to recruit staff yourself, you should be aware of the Swiss employment laws, which are not always straightforward:
http://www.seco.admin.ch/themen/0038...x.html?lang=en
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Old 25.02.2015, 22:54
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

http://www.gstaad.ch/en/service/lega...l-notices.html
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Head Butler and personnel
Estate manager
Kitchen Chef and personnel
Governess (especially if there are children)
Master of service
Gardner / Groundsman
Gamekeeper / Marder catcher
Chauffeur
Valet
In this time of austerity, I've been able to save money by combining the valet and chauffeur positions. It's a sacrifice, but I feel it makes a positive statement to those less well off, refusing to make similar cuts. If these "Heat or Eat" johnnies put just a single one of the downstairs staff out to grass, they'd reap the benefits.
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In this time of austerity, I've been able to save money by combining the valet and chauffeur positions. It's a sacrifice, but I feel it makes a positive statement to those less well off, refusing to make similar cuts. If these "Heat or Eat" johnnies put just a single one of the downstairs staff out to grass, they'd reap the benefits.
Same for me. I have off-shored my EF activities so that the butler can spend more time on his actual work.
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

http://www.inhousestaff.com/vacancies_maids.php
http://www.hotelcareer.com/jobs/gstaad

http://www.jobboard.estatejobs.com/j...7-c0fe9e30a9ae

http://highprofilenannyagencyzurich....istration.html
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Where have ALL the existing staff gone? That's what I'd like to know!��
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

I blame the Swiss Federal Bank. All these foreign johnnies want these days are Euros to send home, not Francs.

Look in Italy for your workers, plenty of boat people there, but you might have to buy them warm uniforms and shoes.
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In this time of austerity, I've been able to save money by combining the valet and chauffeur positions. It's a sacrifice, but I feel it makes a positive statement to those less well off, refusing to make similar cuts. If these "Heat or Eat" johnnies put just a single one of the downstairs staff out to grass, they'd reap the benefits.
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It is customary throughout the Alps to recruit staff by throwing a silver schilling into the bottom of the glass of those deemed fit for work (by virtue of their physical prowess, good looks, hair colour - but never their intelligence, as intelligent staff are always a liability). When the victim applicant drains the glass, he or she is considered to have accepted the contract and may be taken back to the chalet for retraining without delay.

The training process involves being locked in the cellar and listening to Landler music 24 hours a day until the spirit is broken and the subject becomes willing to do whatever is demanded of him/her. This is known as the "Austrian training" method.

I hope this helps. Malleable employees are hard to find in the open market, so it's always better to create one's own, don't you think?
You also have to utter the traditional words "Gotcha my lovely".

About "it's always better to create one's own, don't you think?" but you have to wait at least 14 years before they are old enough

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Unless this is one of the more modest Gstaad Chalets, I imagine you'll be looking to fill the following positions:

Head Butler and personnel
Estate manager
Kitchen Chef and personnel
Governess (especially if there are children)
Master of service
Gardner / Groundsman
Gamekeeper / Marder catcher
Chauffeur
Valet

It is usual to allow the Kitchen Chef to recruit his/her own staff, and it may be that you can dispense with the services of a permanent gardener/groundsman, in favour of outsourcing this activity to one of the many firms which operate in this area. Organising this would be a task for the Estate Manager.
Beware of false economies in the selection of the Marder catcher. The consequences of poor choice here can be many SFr 100K per year in vehicle repair costs.

I can offer no specific recommendation, but you can approach one of these agents found under the keywords "haushaltspersonal vermittlung schweiz", examples of which appear below:


http://www.hauspersonal.ch/CMS/de-CH...=351&P1=1&lg=1

http://www.hauspersonal-schweiz.ch/h...l_schweiz.html

If you chose to recruit staff yourself, you should be aware of the Swiss employment laws, which are not always straightforward:
http://www.seco.admin.ch/themen/0038...x.html?lang=en
You forgot the lady's maid and the housekeeper.


Oh darn been watching too much Downton Abbey lately.
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Lol, if only she had asked if anyone knew of any agencies that specialise in employing/hiring chalet and hospitality staff, the response would have been so different.
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Thank you for all your thoughts.
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Hmmmm. I think this is the first time that a recruitment consultant has asked me where to recruit staff...
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http://www.rockmybaby.ch/pages/famil...ousehold-staff
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Re: Advice Required [Chalet Staff]!

Izzy, you have been polite both when you asked your question, and when you got our somewhat candid replies. Kudos for that! We can be cynical, but we are also a helpful, friendly bunch of people. I cant help you, but welcome to the forum.
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