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What Does "(m/f)" mean?

I hope the title is self explanatory. What Does "(m/f)" mean on a job posting (in english) in Switzerland?

I would venture to mean male/female but that just seems strange. Coming from the US I have never seen a job that would be male/female so I am thinking it is something else.

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Old 23.04.2008, 04:09
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

yup thats exactly what it means... over here we can still specifiy whether we're looking for a male or female employee
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over here we can still specifiy whether we're looking for a male or female employee
Or black or white employees, or swiss or foreign employees, or eu or non-eu.
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

I had to include a picture in my application to graduate studies.....

....couldn't believe it!
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

So what did you do when that didn't work out then ?

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Old 25.04.2008, 09:37
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I hope the title is self explanatory. What Does "(m/f)" mean on a job posting (in english) in Switzerland?

I would venture to mean male/female but that just seems strange. Coming from the US I have never seen a job that would be male/female so I am thinking it is something else.

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I guess it weeds out hairy ugly blokes selling Clinique in Jelmoli .
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

you aren't fooling anyone, you'd hire me too!

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Old 25.04.2008, 13:50
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

Hey Dana

Did that job add put you off CH for ever?

jokes apart I do find it rather shocking... but then as an employer I kind of understand, though not condone,

@ Heather, looking for a job? I need some more pilates instructors
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Old 25.04.2008, 14:55
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

thanks but no thanks Lynn,

I was indeed accepted to the graduate position (it must have been my long hair, not my CV), and though a Phd income is piteously small, it is considered to be 100%. Besides, I'd be a crummy pilates instructor anyway! ;-D

On the side, I've seen lots of "un-politically-correct" behaviour, but that gets kicked to the "are the swiss racist" thread, perhaps just generally discriminatory.....
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Old 25.04.2008, 14:58
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

Actually, I don't really view it as general discrimination.. yes it is discrimination but in this case there are actually very few if any laws governing this behaviour...
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Old 25.04.2008, 15:14
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

Political correctness has it's place until it becomes the dominant force in an issue, in this case job adverts.

The UK is being strangled by mad political correctness in job adverts to the point where, if I were a UK employer, I'd be paranoid about advertising for a position in case there were some opportunist job seeker seeing it as a chance to nail me for a technicality.

I applaud Switzerland for not succumbing to PC madness and keeping a modicum of reality about job adverts.
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

I used to sell clinique so its not all dolly-disco. I would object to such an advert.

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Old 25.04.2008, 15:20
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Political correctness has it's place until it becomes the dominant force in an issue, in this case job adverts.

I applaud Switzerland for not succumbing to PC madness and keeping a modicum of reality about job adverts.
Yes its s sign of the times I guess... However, when you fall in the age category which is not popular among employers this becomes rather an unforgiving and depressing set of circumstances...

Personally I do not agree with making those specifications public, I think whats important is the skills the applicant brings to the table not his/her age or sex... Except that both of these factors affect the insurances and pension plan premiums the employer has to pay which for a small company can be significant...
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I used to sell clinique so its not all dolly-disco. I would object to such an advert.

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On a counter in a department store? Somehow I can't imagine a chap squirting fragrance at passers-by and discussing fine lines but, hey.
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I used to sell clinique so its not all dolly-disco. I would object to such an advert.

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You see, it is not that bad. Ugly hairy blokes can sell clinique in Switzerland. PC is safe.
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Old 27.04.2008, 22:39
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

Switzerland isn't entirely PC-BS immune either. Why explicitely write "m/f" when this applies to the vast majority of jobs anyway? An avalanche of politically correct, gender neutral words with forward slash or capital letter in the middle, and substantiated participles rolled over German a couple years ago. Fortunately much of this is gone now, but you'll still find preventive notes that "the female form is also meant" above many texts.

Blessed is the English language with only one gender.
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Hey Dana

Did that job add put you off CH for ever?

jokes apart I do find it rather shocking... but then as an employer I kind of understand, though not condone,

@ Heather, looking for a job? I need some more pilates instructors
Not at all...written offer they told me would be tomorrow or tuesday....

-Dana
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Old 28.04.2008, 07:50
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Good for you Dana! Hope all goes well...
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Re: What Does "(m/f)" mean?

I always thought the whole 'photos on CVs' thing was a bit unnecessary. Why on earth would you need to know what someone looks like, unless it's modelling job?

F'rinstance:

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