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Old 31.03.2015, 16:26
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Re: Increase of compulsory employer and employee salary deductions (AHV, BVG etc...)

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"have you seen those old pensioners go hiking? "

Have you seen those 55 year old building workers trying to hump 20 Kilo sacks of cement or shovel concrete around? Try it you might like it. They get no sick pay at all for the first two days and then only 80% so they think twice about calling off sick.

Check out the CH statistics for yourself if you think that Swiss OAPs are fitter than Brits.

I hope that you are not writing this during working hours. I may be your boss.

I think its against OHSA regs to hump 20 kg's of anything around, isn't that why there are so many cranes around?


I doubt it, I'm eying the boss out to make sure he does not overfill my wheel barrow with building rubble while I send this from my mobile


TBH I'm not interested in comparing the Swiss with the Brits or anyone else. I have tried to find the Swiss Stats but without much success.
It must be an age thing.... :-)





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Apparently 45 is the new 50:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-wo...etire/41344272

"Politicians see a need for older workers to work longer, but only 1% of Swiss job ads are aimed at people over 45."


As above, interesting times...

Good that this is becoming a relevant topic.
The typical old timers "fear" is that the retirement age will be raised to compensate for the increase in life expectancy. The employer mind set about not employing older people goes against this and is going to be hard to change.


Its a bit of a viscous circle as "technology" improves machines replace humans and less people are employed. Which makes it even more important for everyone (old timers) to keep up to date with tech as much as possible.

I can only talk from personal experience, the older more experienced tend to outperform the youngsters that "management" insist on hiring.
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I think its against OHSA regs to hump 20 kg's of anything around, isn't that why there are so many cranes around?


I doubt it, I'm eying the boss out to make sure he does not overfill my wheel barrow with building rubble while I send this from my mobile


TBH I'm not interested in comparing the Swiss with the Brits or anyone else. I have tried to find the Swiss Stats but without much success.
It must be an age thing.... :-)


" Pse post a link to a Swiss version, its only fair to compare Swiss with Swiss. "
Did you write this?





Good that this is becoming a relevant topic.
The typical old timers "fear" is that the retirement age will be raised to compensate for the increase in life expectancy. The employer mind set about not employing older people goes against this and is going to be hard to change.


Its a bit of a viscous circle as "technology" improves machines replace humans and less people are employed. Which makes it even more important for everyone (old timers) to keep up to date with tech as much as possible.

I can only talk from personal experience, the older more experienced tend to outperform the youngsters that "management" insist on hiring.


Baustoffe Beton B35/25. 30 kg
Anwendungsbereich: Neubau
Verarbeitungshinweis: Aussentemperatur > 5° und < 30°.
Inhalt: 30 kg

" Pse post a link to a Swiss version, its only fair to compare Swiss with Swiss. "
Did you write this or not?


I was wrong! Read 30 Kg.
You can even buy it in the COOp Bau and Hobby. (If you can carry it home that is)



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Re: Increase of compulsory employer and employee salary deductions (AHV, BVG etc...)

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"have you seen those old pensioners go hiking? "

Have you seen those 55 year old building workers trying to hump 20 Kilo sacks of cement or shovel concrete around? Try it you might like it. They get no sick pay at all for the first two days and then only 80% so they think twice about calling off sick.

Check out the CH statistics for yourself if you think that Swiss OAPs are fitter than Brits.

I think that over 50ties who still work on a building site after a lifetime of carrying hods of bricks and 30 kilo sacks of concrete would not take too kindly over you hinting that they may be too weak to do their job, newsflash; you may not be able to lug sacks of concrete but be sure that they can.
It also seems that you cherry picked your statistics that say that older employees are more prone to sickness, my cherry picked statistics tell otherwise, so I think it safe to say that the truth is that older workers are not more or less sick than younger ones however they do seem to take longer to recover from major illnesses.
Thing is when we, the older guys, have gone you should better be sure that your automated systems are working, because the up and coming dumbed down generation that you need to do the work to pay for your pension doesn't seem to possess the brain grease to make it work, (so be sure to have your sheep in the dry by the time you are 50) that and the fact that the age pyramid is going to be standing on it's head in a few years is going to create the imbalance of not enough workers paying into the system, unless of course you get immigration, and we see how good that idea has worked, eh?
So what to do with the old guys and gals, off to the carousel at 30?
Oh and by the way I call bullshit on saying that the "elderly" are not as fast learners or adapting to new fangled stuff.
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Baustoffe Beton B35/25. 30 kg
Anwendungsbereich: Neubau
Verarbeitungshinweis: Aussentemperatur > 5° und < 30°.
Inhalt: 30 kg

" Pse post a link to a Swiss version, its only fair to compare Swiss with Swiss. "
Did you write this or not?


I was wrong! Read 30 Kg.
You can even buy it in the COOp Bau and Hobby. (If you can carry it home that is)




That's not a Statistic, its an advert or product information sheet
Did u drop one of those on your head by any chance
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That's not a Statistic, its an advert or product information sheet
Did u drop one of those on your head by any chance
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I was correcting my assertion that the sacks weigh 25 Kilos.
I could`t get one high enough to drop on my head.
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