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salaries for ETH (or compatibles) graduates

I am 40 and a PhD holder for 8 years specialized in some sort of mechanical and electrical engineering, working in a large and rich company in Zurich Canton for two years now.
I am reasonably happy with the working and living environments here but I have been suspecting that I am probably a little underpaid considering my career and the intensive work load. My suspection became a belief when I looked some statistics of monthy average gross salary for people in Zurich doing some highly difficult work (catagory 1) in the research and technology area was 12800 CHF in year 2004. Do they get really this much?

Does anybody know how much a new ETH PhD holders (or a BSc holders) normally get in their first career and how much percentage the salary increases annualy? (Or what could be a successful salary and annual increase for them?) This information should serve as a good benchmark on which I can set my salary negotiation strategy with the company. I am ready to leave if I am really underpayed.

Perhaps my question is too much for this forum, but any answer and suggestion will be gratefully received.
Cheers,
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Re: salaries for ETH (or compatibles) graduates

Hi Dodol,

I work with a lot of PhD's in the BioTech industry, the normal pay scale for a non-management position is between CHF95,00 and CHF105,000 per annum. I don't think where I work people are particularly well paid either but that seems to be the norm according to the scientists as there are more people than there are jobs available. The company where I work is neither large or rich.
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Re: salaries for ETH (or compatibles) graduates

I used to have friends that used to work at ETH. They both have PhDs and had to do research and also be in charge of PhD students concentrating in animal behaviour studies. Their gross monthly income ranged between 8,500 to 9,500 CHF.
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Re: salaries for ETH (or compatibles) graduates

Thanks for the answers.
So it seems like the reasonably-paid starting sarary for a fresh PhD is about 100k CHF.
1. It has to be variant depending on the performance and roles, but does anyone know what is the average increase rate of the sarary for the above-mentioned salarygroup?
2. In addition, does anyone know what the salary situation is for a fresh bachelor or master?
I should have known this sort of basic information, but it-s a sensitive matter to ask in person.
Thanks in advance for your information. Doldol
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Re: salaries for ETH (or compatibles) graduates

A grad (with first class honours or equivalent) starting a PhD would be on about 2500-3000 scholarship/salary per month after tax. (I know some guys doing this)

As far as i know, a PhD in physics/electrical will get you a starting salary of between 4000 and 6000 after tax per month (13 pays/year) depending on work experience/responsibilities. I asked around, and this seems to be the norm. I know guys a fair bit more experienced then me on about 4K/mth, so i guess bargaining has a bit to do with it. I guess it depends on where you live too. ETH probably has to pay a little/lot more as a cost of living supplement for Zurich. Also, if you choose the corporate over the academic path you'll find the pays will be higher again.

Bio-tech probably just pays more, seems to be the same all over the world.

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Re: salaries for ETH (or compatibles) graduates

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A grad (with first class honours or equivalent) starting a PhD would be on about 2500-3000 scholarship/salary per month after tax. (I know some guys doing this)

As far as i know, a PhD in physics/electrical will get you a starting salary of between 4000 and 6000 after tax per month (13 pays/year) depending on work experience/responsibilities. I asked around, and this seems to be the norm. I know guys a fair bit more experienced then me on about 4K/mth, so i guess bargaining has a bit to do with it. I guess it depends on where you live too. ETH probably has to pay a little/lot more as a cost of living supplement for Zurich. Also, if you choose the corporate over the academic path you'll find the pays will be higher again.

Bio-tech probably just pays more, seems to be the same all over the world.

good luck
Nope, not the same all over the world. Any PhD's thinking about working in the US? let me know. My hubbie is a tribologist he is very happy and recruits talent. Most recruits from MIT. The company is especially seeking Biotech engineers..
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I am 40 and a PhD holder for 8 years specialized in some sort of mechanical and electrical engineering, working in a large and rich company in Zurich Canton for two years now.
I am reasonably happy with the working and living environments here but I have been suspecting that I am probably a little underpaid considering my career and the intensive work load. My suspection became a belief when I looked some statistics of monthy average gross salary for people in Zurich doing some highly difficult work (catagory 1) in the research and technology area was 12800 CHF in year 2004. Do they get really this much?

Does anybody know how much a new ETH PhD holders (or a BSc holders) normally get in their first career and how much percentage the salary increases annualy? (Or what could be a successful salary and annual increase for them?) This information should serve as a good benchmark on which I can set my salary negotiation strategy with the company. I am ready to leave if I am really underpayed.

Perhaps my question is too much for this forum, but any answer and suggestion will be gratefully received.
Cheers,
Pay is low. Good luck trying to find a payscale.
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